On a related note, if I have a dual boot machine with one 32 bit partition amnd one 64 bit, would it be possibe to configure things so that they share the same home directory? How? ?or is that bordering on craziness? Kjetil <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 20:43, NoOp <<a href="mailto:glgxg@sbcglobal.net">glgxg@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im">On 06/10/2010 11:25 PM, Knapp wrote: >> 1. You need to download dual versions of many applications. For example, >> if I update a version of 32bit xyz I can generally transfer that to my >> other 32bit machines w/o issue. However, for my 64bit machines, I then >> need to go out and also download the amd64bit version. Thsi causes a lot >> of added download overhead. > > OK, but that is not really a 32 bit or 64 bit issues. It is a problem > of having 2 types of machines. It is also not likely to effect someone > that does not know anything about 32 vs 64 bit or their existence IE > you are not a newbie. </div>Agreed. But the maintainability of both can be pretty high. For example; I test OpenOffice.org OOo on a regular basis. If I need to test on both 32bit & 64bit I need to download two 140Mb+ .debs: <a href="http://download.openoffice.org/other.html" target="_blank">http://download.openoffice.org/other.html</a> one for each. I also test & use Mozilla SeaMonkey, Thunderbird, etc., and if I wish to test/use 32 & 64bit versions then I need to download the appropriate for both. Same for the standard flash files from the Ubuntu repo's from the recent Adobe threads; one of i386 & one for amd64. My point wasn't to disuade anyone from using 64bit, but to just point out the issues if you have 32bit machines/partitions and 64bit machines/patitions. It's double effort to maintain both. <div class="im"> > >> 2. You can't always get application 64bit builds, or can't get them at >> the same time as the i386 builds. >> Quite often you'll find that updates from the Ubuntu repositories are >> available first in i386 & sometimes days later in amd64. The recent >> example for the flash 10.1 security update is a good example; the update >> is available for i386, but who knows when it will be available for 64bit? > > That is very interesting. Is it just a matter of priorities with the > devs? Only having 64 bit, I did not know this. </div>During the 10.04 build transition I could easily see builds for my 32bit machine(s) that were released. However I found that 64bit builds sometimes took nearly 1-2 days later. In one case I had an issue whereby I couldn't boot into a 64bit partition for over 36 hours as I had to wait for the 64bit build to finish and be uploaded. Granted, my cases are probably a little out of the norm as I test from alpha stages to final release. But again, it does indeed happen. I can't say as I blame any dev for doing i386 builds first as those are the most populous, so it makes perfect sense to do them first. <div class="im"> > >> 3. You can't get amd64 builds/packages. Other times you simply can't get >> a 64bit build for a package/application at all. This means that you need >> to resort to a 32bit build & hope that it works. Sometimes it does, >> sometimes it doesn't. > > I run all sorts of software. I have never had this problem in the last > 2 years; before that yes. Do you really still have this problem with > Linux? What software? </div>Yes. Mostly with software outside the Ubuntu repositories. <div><div></div><div class="h5"> -- ubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> -- The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell. St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37