Hello- I have a dual boot laptop with Vista (only for iThingies) and Ubuntu. Vista had a security upgrade and after it finished I got the following error message when restarting the machine. Grub Loading Ho :) Not Found ?YL Aborted Press ??*1? Any key to exit. The smiley face is more like a little emoticon type symbol. The * is more like a little star emoticon. I do not know squat about grub and really do not want to mess with it so I installed Ubuntu again. Well, Vista uses the slow upgrade method and it took three Ubuntu installs before Vista was finished. I turned off all updates in Vista since the only thing I use is iTunes and never even open a browser. Problem solved. However, the last time I used iTunes and rebooted I get the same error message. So I installed the new Ubuntu Beta 2 figuring it was as good as time as any to see how it works on the Dell laptop. Works great, btw. I googled around and could not find anything with this type of error message and did a post to this list the first time it happened but got no real response. I have learned that if you do not format the Ubuntu partition it basically just install the system and leaves everything else where it was. I have gotten rather good a installing my whole Ubuntu setup in pretty good time from start to finish. Any suggestions, hints or places to look for answers. Thanks. tab