<div dir="ltr"><a href="http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/d/dave_barry.html" target="_blank">Dave Barry</a> - "Camping is nature's way of promoting the motel business." <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 20:36, Mike McGinn <<a href="mailto:mikemcginn@mcginnweb.net">mikemcginn@mcginnweb.net</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div style="font-family: 'DejaVu Sans'; font-size: 9pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal;"><div><div></div><div class="h5"> On Thursday 04 June 2009 13:23:44 marc wrote: > Amichai Rotman said: > > Please switch off HTML. > > I'm a long time kde user who has switched to gnome due to the kde4/9.04 > clusterfuck. > > I disliked gnome intensely, I still dislike the gnome registry - a > triumph of conservative control-freakery over imagination and common > sense, but I digress - so it wasn't an obvious choice, and I tried quite > a few others before settling on gnome. > > The fact is that despite its very obvious shortcomings, gnome, with > judicious use of compiz (see compizconfig-settings-manager), offers very > similar control to kde. > > The clincher for me, though, is gnome do. This application pours salt on > kde4's wounds, and offers control far beyond what kde is currently > offering. > > Another nice touch is a package to revert the horrible new notification > system. > > I can't vouch for your hardware, but I have far less issues in gnome; for > one, bluetooth works for me; it just crashes all the time in kde. > > I agree with you about kcontrol, but I think that sums up where the kde > folk lost the plot. Perhaps they'll find it again. > > In the meantime, just install gnome-desktop - no need to reinstall - and > hold your nose. Once you get into it, you might find you like it. It sure > beats thumping your head against the wall day after day with kde4. And > you can keep using all your favourite kde apps too, I do. > > -- > Best, > Marc > > "Change requires small steps." </div></div>I concur fully (though I have not tried compiz -- yet), I went back to 8.10 and I am using gnome. I use two KDE applications (Kontact and Konsole) and they both run quite nicely under gnome. I have my desktop looking the way I like it (I switched the top and bottom panels -- among other things) and I just might stay with the gnome desktop. I am considering migrating to Evolution, but having to set up all my mail filters again seems too daunting right now, I find that Konsole is much more configurable than the gnome terminal, so I will never be switching from that. I do most of my work on the command line. </div></blockquote><div> You could try either Yakuake (if you want to stick to a KDE app), or the almost-as-good Gnome app Tilda. Amichai. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div style="font-family: 'DejaVu Sans'; font-size: 9pt; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal;"> -- Mike McGinn No electrons were harmed in sending this message. My deeds are my dearest companions. I am the beneficiary of my deeds. My deeds are the ground on which I stand. "more kidneys than eyes!" "Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit." Registered Linux User 377849 </div> -- ubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div> </div>