Hey buddy, Instead of using gradebook, use moodle instead. it support in Ubuntu. thanks Tommy <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM, <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Send ubuntu-users mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Potential School Wide Linux Implementation (Christopher Chan) 2. Re: Jaunty beta - lost my nvidia drivers (Leonard Chatagnier) 3. Re: Jaunty beta - lost my nvidia drivers (Ray Parrish) 4. Re: 3GiB ram, gnome-system-monitor now says 2.9GiB (Matthew Flaschen) 5. Re: /home partition (Matthew Flaschen) 6. Re: problem with chmod (Bret Busby) 7. Re: problem with chmod (Bret Busby) 8. Re: /home partition (Ray Parrish) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Christopher Chan <<a href="mailto:christopher.chan@bradbury.edu.hk">christopher.chan@bradbury.edu.hk</a>> To: <a href="mailto:tholmes@mcaschool.net">tholmes@mcaschool.net</a>, "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:39:50 +0800 Subject: Re: Potential School Wide Linux Implementation Hello Tim, I am also an one man IT shop for a school. Tim Holmes wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hello Folks: I am the One Man IT shop for Medina Christian Academy, and am facing a potential situation that i am trying to avert in the future. I am currently a largely Windows XP (fully patched and updated) network built on a Windows Server 2003 Active Directory domain. I have some samba servers for file servers and an APACHE web development server. We have ~150 desktops spread between the classrooms, offices and computer lab. The computers are mostly roughly 5 year old Pentium 4 gateways mostly have 40 gb hdd, onboard sound and video cards and between 512 and 1024 mb memory </blockquote> I take it that the samba servers share the same RID database? <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> -- Printing -- we have a number of printers across the network -- couple of which are all in one type units by keyocera - and all stations/users need to be able to print -- so that means samba print server -- again -- probably take some development work but i am pretty sure it can be done. </blockquote> If you switch to Linux, you drop samba for all but remaining Windows hosts. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> -- domain (or whatever its called in linux) -- users need to be able to sign in on any computer, and have their files accessable similar to what happens when a user logs into a windows domain. </blockquote> Been there, done that. You need to configure kerberos and in my case, winbind and add pam authentication via winbind and user info lookup via winbind. Then you can keep the AD if that makes user management easier for you or you do not wish to migrate user accounts or you will still have some Windows clients left. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> -- Our School management software / gradebook -- not available in linux, but im wondering about using crossover office / wine or possibly VMWARE -- i'll need input on that -- its a client server app sort of the gradebook writes out text files that are imported into the main application which is based on microsoft access databases with a custom written interface -- might have to run a Virtual windows 2003 server to run the server portion of it -- and like wine or something for the users to access it -- i dont know </blockquote> Best if it works with wine...otherwise, you will still need them XP licenses to run in a kvm guest or something. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> -- backup -- we have a quantum loader, so one way or another we'll need to be able to back stuff up </blockquote> You can choose to have one or more online (and maybe offsite) backup server loaded with big fat disks. I do not have tape backup anymore. With 500GB of data and growing, the tape backup system is no joke. Might as well just do HA and have multiple backup servers. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> -- file servers -- ive got a couple linux file servers now -- but they are running samba i dont know how to share stuff via linux </blockquote> NFS, Gluster, lots of choices...all depend on how you want to manage your data. But first, you first need to make sure that uids/gids are identical across all Linux boxes...whether servers or desktops. If you will still have a few Windows desktops for office staff, then it is best you keep the AD if you need group policies on the remaining desktops or you could consider converting over to NT style domains instead of AD. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> im sure there are things that i have forgotten so if anyone has ideas / suggestions please chime in. I am tentatively planning to use kubuntu, for the desktop environmen, and this project (if it goes) at least for now would be deployed summer of 2010 for use beginning in the fall of 2010 </blockquote> Do you use group policies to limit what the kids can see? If so, the only easy to use equivalent on desktop environments available in Linux is KDE 3.x using the kiosktool. With that, you can assign desktop profiles to groups and control what the different users can see or use on their box. Christopher ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Leonard Chatagnier <<a href="mailto:lenc5570@sbcglobal.net">lenc5570@sbcglobal.net</a>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Jaunty beta - lost my nvidia drivers --- On Sun, 4/5/09, sdavmor <<a href="mailto:sdavmor@systemstheory.net">sdavmor@systemstheory.net</a>> wrote: > From: sdavmor <<a href="mailto:sdavmor@systemstheory.net">sdavmor@systemstheory.net</a>> > Subject: Jaunty beta - lost my nvidia drivers > To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> > Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 9:06 PM > I'm back to using the open drivers right now because the > latest update > crashed the nvidia video on reboot. Downgrading the > proprietary > drivers from 180 to 173 doesn't help. I see that this > xorg issue has > been reported with ATI. Has anyone else experienced this > vith nvidia? > This may help: <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=jaunty+nvidia+drivers&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/search?q=jaunty+nvidia+drivers&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a</a> The first hit said the 108.11 driver was the latest recommended driver. Sorry, haven't installed jaunty yet so can't comment on it. However, it's not too uncommen having to install a newer driver especially after a new kernel is installed or perhaps it's a bug. If it were me I'd do an 'aptitude search nvidia' to see what is availabe in the proprietary drivers that might suit you needs. Also, reboot in recovery mode and select xfix, let it run to completion, then continue the boot and it might fix X. I assume that xfix is still there in Jaunty beta. You might also google for your video chip+jaunty and perhaps locate the specific nvidia module recommended for our card/chip. there are lots of googling possibilities that may help solve your problem. HTH, Leonard Chatagnier <a href="mailto:lenc5570@sbcglobal.net">lenc5570@sbcglobal.net</a> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ray Parrish <<a href="mailto:crp@cmc.net">crp@cmc.net</a>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:26:42 -0700 Subject: Re: Jaunty beta - lost my nvidia drivers Leonard Chatagnier wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> --- On Sun, 4/5/09, sdavmor <<a href="mailto:sdavmor@systemstheory.net" target="_blank">sdavmor@systemstheory.net</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> From: sdavmor <<a href="mailto:sdavmor@systemstheory.net" target="_blank">sdavmor@systemstheory.net</a>> Subject: Jaunty beta - lost my nvidia drivers To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 9:06 PM I'm back to using the open drivers right now because the latest update crashed the nvidia video on reboot. Downgrading the proprietary drivers from 180 to 173 doesn't help. I see that this xorg issue has been reported with ATI. Has anyone else experienced this vith nvidia? </blockquote> This may help: <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=jaunty+nvidia+drivers&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/search?q=jaunty+nvidia+drivers&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a</a> The first hit said the 108.11 driver was the latest recommended driver. Sorry, haven't installed jaunty yet so can't comment on it. However, it's not too uncommen having to install a newer driver especially after a new kernel is installed or perhaps it's a bug. If it were me I'd do an 'aptitude search nvidia' to see what is availabe in the proprietary drivers that might suit you needs. Also, reboot in recovery mode and select xfix, let it run to completion, then continue the boot and it might fix X. I assume that xfix is still there in Jaunty beta. You might also google for your video chip+jaunty and perhaps locate the specific nvidia module recommended for our card/chip. there are lots of googling possibilities that may help solve your problem. HTH, Leonard Chatagnier <a href="mailto:lenc5570@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">lenc5570@sbcglobal.net</a> </blockquote> Hi Leonard, I haven't heard of xfix before, and there isn't a man page for it on my system, nor a binary of that name in my path, and when I searched for it in Synaptic, I only came up with libxfixes3, and it's companion packages of libfixes-dbg, and libfixes-dev, no binary named xfix. You say that it is accessible from within recovery console, where I've never been before, so I'm assuming it is a menu entry within recovery console somewhere. Is this right? I guess I really should boot into the recovery console at least once, just to see what's there, can't learn anything if I don't explore. 8-) Later, Ray Parrish -- Human reviewed index of links about the computer <a href="http://www.rayslinks.com" target="_blank">http://www.rayslinks.com</a> Poetry from the mind of a Schizophrenic <a href="http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com/" target="_blank">http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com/</a> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Matthew Flaschen <<a href="mailto:matthew.flaschen@gatech.edu">matthew.flaschen@gatech.edu</a>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 01:58:18 -0400 Subject: Re: 3GiB ram, gnome-system-monitor now says 2.9GiB J. Limon wrote: > Greetings, > > Previous to using the Jaunty beta, I had been using whatever the latest > version of Linux Mint is (6.x I think?) and their version of > gnome-system-monitor had always correctly displayed my RAM as being > 3.0GiB but ever since switching to Ubuntu, it is now 2.9GiB. > > While I fully acknowledge that this is superficial and absolutely > frivolous - I'm just curious as to why this could be, maybe a new patch > to gnome-system-monitor which handles the rounding up and down of these > numbers? I doubt it's a rounding issue. One possibility is you have different drivers, and an Ubuntu one is reserving some memory. Matt Flaschen ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Matthew Flaschen <<a href="mailto:matthew.flaschen@gatech.edu">matthew.flaschen@gatech.edu</a>> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:00:03 -0400 Subject: Re: /home partition Allen Meyers wrote: > have goggled a bunch on this home partition > thing and I did not accept it originally on the live CD option. I do highly recommend a home partition. >Please advise and if it a re-install and accept from live CD well advise as well, but I do want > a functioning home partition and do what I must do to maintain it's > functionality. Backing up and reinstalling would certainly be easiest for a new user. My theory on repartitioning is that lossless repartitioning is possible (<a href="http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/04/01/095755.php" target="_blank">http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/04/01/095755.php</a>) but it's never guaranteed. So, you have to backup first, and if you're going to backup first...you might as well blow everything away. As far as advice, not sure exactly what you're asking. It always helps to paste in your current partition layout when asking such questions. Run: sudo parted /dev/sda print That will print your partition table. Then, we can give more informed advice. Matt Flaschen ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bret Busby <<a href="mailto:bret@busby.net">bret@busby.net</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 13:59:14 +0800 (WST) Subject: Re: problem with chmod On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Thorny wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:55:14 +0800, Bret Busby posted: [...] <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> :~$ cat /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # /dev/sda8 UUID=3bb93d1c-1875-4036-90c7-846e954ceb45 /data ext3 defaults 0 0 # /dev/sda5 UUID=cb771616-3630-4139-9b1d-c3fb499d9949 /debian_home ext3 defaults 0 0 # /dev/sda7 UUID=1b72f837-17e1-4af9-9f22-31dc9a191657 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1 # /dev/sda6 UUID=b421ce00-c5cc-4df1-9102-65b0b256376d none swap sw 0 0 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 </blockquote> Well Bret, assuming you have the correct UUIDs, those partitions should be mounted in the filesystem, however, you don't mention where you expect them to be mounted, what are you trying to achieve? </blockquote> I want to be able to access what is in those two partitions - read and write access, from the Debian partition. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> [...] <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> [Thorny] So, list the two partitions you want to mount at boot so we can compare them to your fstab. </blockquote> [Bret] The two partitions that I want to be able to mount at system bootup in the Ubuntu system, are sda8 and sda5, as shown in the fstab file above. sda5 is the /home partition of my Debian system. </blockquote> sda5 is not the /home of your filesystem, the way you have the fstab written it is the /debian_home in your filesystem, your filesystem will not see that as home. </blockquote> I do not ant that partition to be used as the /home partition for Ubuntu. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> >From what I understand, it is dangerous to share /home directories or </blockquote> partitions, between different OS installations, whether they be different distributions, or, different versions of the same distribution, as, amongst other things, incompatibilities can occur. I want to b able to access with read/write permissions, what is in the Debian /home partition, fromn within the Ubuntu partition. <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> sda8 is to be mounted at /data in your filesystem, nothing wrong with that, however, remember because it's mounted in the root of your filesystem, as a regular user, you will have limited permissions on that folder. It's only in your home that you have permissions necessary to write, that's part of the security model of the nix filesystem </blockquote> But I have previously been able to access /mnt/data partitions and underlying directory hierarchies, as a user, with Debian 3.1, with read/write access, and so I assumed that I would be able to similarly access these partitions from Ubuntu. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bret Busby <<a href="mailto:bret@busby.net">bret@busby.net</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:00:40 +0800 (WST) Subject: Re: problem with chmod On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Thorny wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 05:52:53 -0700, Thorny posted: [...] I just thought of something I haven't yet asked you. You did create the mount points in your filesystem before trying to mount them, didn't you, or are you expecting them to be created from the info in fstab? </blockquote> No. I figured that that would be done on rebooting, after putting the new entries in the fstab file. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ray Parrish <<a href="mailto:crp@cmc.net">crp@cmc.net</a>> To: <a href="mailto:chef11994@sbcglobal.net">chef11994@sbcglobal.net</a>, "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:08:49 -0700 Subject: Re: /home partition Allen Meyers wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> The great thing about support from a list like this is one is inspired to grow and change. I have goggled a bunch on this home partition thing and I did not accept it originally on the live CD option. However on reflection I decided to give it a shot via my gparted live CD, but now I must mount/fill and activate. Please advise and if it a re-install and accept from live CD well advise as well, but I do want a functioning home partition and do what I must do to maintain it's functionality. As always my thanks from little old Wortham Texas My recent one and only venture into site design for my town of 1000 <a href="http://www.worthamtx.com" target="_blank">http://www.worthamtx.com</a> Allen Meyers <a href="mailto:texas.chef94@gmail.com" target="_blank">texas.chef94@gmail.com</a> </blockquote> Hello, I checked out your town on it's web site. I was pretty much raised in small towns like that. [32 different ones by the time I was a sophomore in High School, as my Dad followed heavy construction jobs, wherever they popped up, for a living.] I like your door icons for your links. 8-) That's a pretty intuitive navigation artifice. My last two years of high school I finally got to spend the rest of, in one school in a very small Indian reservation town, and my graduating class consisted of 32 graduates, so I'm no stranger to your sort of town. I did notice that on your front page, the description text lines with the black backgrounds beneath the picture of the town, are arranged in four overlapping rows, with each lower row partially obscuring the text in the line above it. Oh yeah, I just remembered that that is probably my fault, as I have the font sizes in my browser set larger than the defaults, to make it easier to read web pages, as so many web masters these days seem to be using tiny difficult to read text for some reason. Old eyes need big text! 8-) Later, Ray Parrish - Human reviewed index of links about the computer <a href="http://www.rayslinks.com" target="_blank">http://www.rayslinks.com</a> Poetry from the mind of a Schizophrenic <a href="http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com/" target="_blank">http://www.writingsoftheschizophrenic.com/</a> -- ubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div>