<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Larry Shields <<a href="mailto:larryesu@charter.net">larryesu@charter.net</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hello Again, Well I kind of figured that it would be hard to pin down, unless someone had had the same problem...</blockquote></div> i had the problem. i narrowed it down to the proprietary nvidia driver. with the driver i got _ _ _ and without the driver and rebooting the system i got my menus back. i did the reinstall route 3 times before i figured it out. cheers, dwain -- "Fear of the devil is one way of doubting God. " - Kahlil Gibran