<HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="IncrediMail 1.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml) } </STYLE> <style>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml) } </style>  </HEAD> <BODY style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 5px 10px 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor=#ffffff background="" scroll=yes> <TABLE id=INCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=INCREDITEXTREGION dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; DIRECTION: ltr" width="100%"> <DIV>As a very new newbie, I was able to install Ubuntu Hardy and get it running easier than installing earlier versions of Windows, Linux and NT4., FWIW.</DIV> <DIV>R.H. Nye</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Message: 13</DIV> <DIV>Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:41:08 -0400</DIV> <DIV>From: Derek Broughton <<A href="mailto:news@pointerstop.ca">news@pointerstop.ca</A>></DIV> <DIV>Subject: Re: Inquiry</DIV> <DIV>To: <A href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</A></DIV> <DIV>Message-ID: <<A href="mailto:4121917.NQA4icebsJ@cedar.serverforest.com">4121917.NQA4icebsJ@cedar.serverforest.com</A>></DIV> <DIV>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Eberhard Roloff wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>> Derek Broughton wrote:</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>>></DIV> <DIV>>> Or even better for the trepidacious new user, slip the new disk into the</DIV> <DIV>>> drive _while_ you're running Windows and the "Wubi" installer will create</DIV> <DIV>>> a</DIV> <DIV>>> file _inside_ your Windows partition and install Ubuntu into that. Then</DIV> <DIV>>> you can boot into either without trouble.</DIV> <DIV>>></DIV> <DIV>> On a sidenote:</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>> While I understand Wubi as a rather riskfree way to explore Linux, I</DIV> <DIV>> never recommend Wubi or vmware/vbox installations to newcomers.</DIV> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>> Imho these msolutions either depend on the power of the underlying</DIV> <DIV>> windows or are nice but slow through emulation.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>huh? Do you have a clue what either wubi or the virtual solutions are?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wubi provides a standard boot into linux on a loopback filesystem, where the</DIV> <DIV>filesystem is a file on the NTFS partition. The only remote hazard here is</DIV> <DIV>that the filesystem is hosted on an NTFS partition. Once installed, it has</DIV> <DIV>no dependence on "the underlying windows" and it is slowed only as much as</DIV> <DIV>I/O to any loopback system might be.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I wouldn't suggest a virtual solution to newbies, but only because the setup</DIV> <DIV>can be a little complicated - there's no reason at all it should be slow,</DIV> <DIV>provided you have enough memory (on my wife's system, Windows on</DIV> <DIV>virtualbox, itself, is as fast as Windows - unfortunately it takes so much</DIV> <DIV>of her memory, that the host Ubuntu system is a pig...)</DIV> <DIV>--</DIV> <DIV>derek</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>------------------------------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>--</DIV> <DIV>ubuntu-users mailing list</DIV> <DIV><A href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</A></DIV> <DIV>Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <A href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>End of ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 51, Issue 141</DIV> <DIV>*********************************************</DIV></TD></TR> <TR> <TD id=INCREDIFOOTER width="100%"> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width="100%"></TD> <TD id=INCREDISOUND vAlign=bottom align=middle></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BODY></HTML>