<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Brian McKee wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:cc77dabe0809231135k54899bd1h91a06662543402b5@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Michael Falkenburg <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mandcfalk@verizon.net"><mandcfalk@verizon.net></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Sorry about the delay...like I said, it's a 3rd-shift dilemma. Here is the lspci -v info: (oh yeah, before I forget, where in the world does the vertical line come from - the one you had before "grep Ethernet" - and what does it mean? </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> The vertical line is called a pipe | It's like a joiner between two commands - pass the output of this into the input of that - connecting them like a 'pipe' On a typical US 104 key keyboard it's usually located above the Enter key with the backslash \ It's one of the pillars of Unix. For instance ls -ahl will list in long format all the files in the current directory grep Fred will look for a line with 'Fred' in it from the information you pass into grep Here's an example ==> ls -ahl total 0 drwxr-xr-x 5 bmckee bmckee 170B Sep 23 14:30 . drwxr-xr-x 96 bmckee bmckee 3K Sep 23 14:30 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 bmckee bmckee 0B Sep 23 14:31 fred.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 bmckee bmckee 0B Sep 23 14:30 somethingelse.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 bmckee bmckee 0B Sep 23 14:30 test.txt ==> ls -ahl | grep test -rw-r--r-- 1 bmckee bmckee 0B Sep 23 14:30 test.txt See how 'piping' the output of `ls` into `grep` let us find just what we wanted? In his original suggestion to you, piping lspci thru grep to find Ethernet would have resulted in zero output. It might have been a bit confusing, but it would have saved a lot of innocent bits that got shoved through my email for no good reason :-) HTH Brian </pre> </blockquote> Well thanks, Brian :-D ...I'm glad you described WHERE to find it on the keyboard. I totally overlooked it, since on my keyboard it appears "broken" so it's kind of like a thin ":". I did not realize that it would result in a solid vertical. I also see how that drastically changes the output. Sorry 'bout the shoving, Michael </body> </html>