Hi gang, Lets face it, Ubuntu 8.04 LTS is not as great as its last LTS on the desktop, which was 6.06. It is not even as great as 7.10! I am running Ubuntu 8.04 64 bit on my desktop PC since its release date, and I am still experiencing a few issues after latest updates. 1. Flash player inside firefox does not work properly when more than one flash player page is opened. the later opened one may not display the flash content. 2. Flash play will play first 4 sec without sound then stop if there is another application needs to use sound (mp3 player). It may not only happens with flash, i think some other application is also having this problem. 3. wine is not reading the fonts in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts <-- i know it might be more like wine's problem 4. not able to play back rmvb files by using mplayer. the codec seems installed, but it is not doing the job I can go on and on... My point is, I was not experiencing any of these issue when i was use 7.10. I know some of them may need some tweaks, but i was able to make it work. when i first install 8.04, i was surprised it ships with FF3 beta. I know FF3 will be released soon at that time, but it is not a good idea to put it in a LTS even though you are going to update it later. the new kernel, 2.6.24, is having a lot of compatible issue. For example, VMware does not like that new kernel, some modules can not be compiled. It might only be 64 bit's problem only, since i need it to see all my ram without enable pae or hugemem. Or that is just my stupid configuration or limited knowledge. I think, Ubuntu team should really re-consider using the newest software package in the LTS release. The newest is not always the "best" in linux. I will re-install 8.04 64bit tonight to see if i can fix those issues i listed. If not, i think i will go back to 7.10. Thanks Q