are you talking about fedora 8 or ubuntu 8? ubuntu 8 beta is kinda stable now and patches are coming everyday very frequently. <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Karl Larsen <<a href="mailto:k5di@zianet.com">k5di@zianet.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> When there is a change in things it is natural to expect a change to the better. Alas a change can and does go both ways. In my personal experience with Linux most change is better. But there were some that were terrible. I was using Fedora Core 4 and with updates and help I got everything I wanted working, or found a way around a problem. I stayed with this version through Fedora Core 5 and 6 and then I think Fedora 7 and 8. Late into Fedora 8 I tried it and had my first experience with Pulse Audio. The whole fedora list was full of guys complaining about no audio. Finally a smart guy tried deleting PA files. He deleted just one and his audio started working. He reported his success and many people did what I did. I deleted the one file and was happy again because my audio worked again. Today I am thinking about upgrading to version 8 and have decided to heck with 8. I will stay with version 7.1 for at least another year, perhaps 3 years. It works just fine. I have a lot of special codex files I apt-get and they make my system work well showing rented movies. I do not want to go through finding all these again. Karl -- Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI Linux User #450462 <a href="http://counter.li.org" target="_blank">http://counter.li.org</a>. PGP 4208 4D6E 595F 22B9 FF1C ECB6 4A3C 2C54 FE23 53A7 -- ubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users</a> </blockquote></div>