<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> David Vincent wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:4765A74C.8000201@sleepdeprived.ca" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Michael wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Davide Corio wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Il giorno dom, 16/12/2007 alle 10.37 -0800, Michael ha scritto: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Thanks, I have tried it, no playlist support. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">It's not true, xmms supports playlist. You can even try beep, a sound player based on Xmms, but with a gtk2 GUI. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap="">I have over 25000 files, I need 'smart' playlist support. I will look at beep, thanks. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> i don't really understand what you mean by smart playlist support. i think i have this right - audacious and beep are based on xmms which was an attempt at getting a winamp type player circa v2.x onto linux. (ie. works for playing music and doesn't try to do fancy stuff like burn/rip music or manage it.) personally audacious has problems streaming properly from my gnump3d server, i find beep annoying, and while xmms is the best (most capable) imho of the three players, it is a little ugly at times and isn't gnome-integrated as nicely as the others. (right-click menus for instance.) rhythmbox is not for me either, too much dependence on tags for music management. if you don't want amarok have you looked at exaile? it is an amarok player built for gnome. personally i don't like either, they aloso depend too heavily on tags to sort my music collection. mythtv has mythmusic which you can tell to use the directories as the sort and display order - it is very very customizeable. but - the navigation within mythmusic is crude and overall it is a pretty terrible music player (can't ffw/rwd most mp3s for instance). using vlc/totem/mplayer/xine is just horrible. none of them are really geared towards music. what do i use? gnump3d and xmms with my favorite winamp 2.x skin. gnump3d sorts on directories and reads tags and creates playlists for each folder as well as doing random directory stuff and random playlist generation. it also has some fun statistics to look at too. that and xmbc in the livingroom pointed at some smb shares. that's my real favorite, it has a nice intuitive interface and works with a remote. :) i hope this project takes off... <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_port_project">http://www.xboxmediacenter.com/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_port_project</a> -d </pre> </blockquote> I have just looked at Exaile and so far I like it. It seems not to choke like Amarok even though they seem to use the same engine. Tags are what I use to sort with. I have my music divided by genre. If I want classical or jazz or rock I have a separate smartlist for it. That way when I add files they are automatically made part of the playlist. I can also sort by artist or album or length or any tag available. A standard (non-smart) playlist will have certain favorites that don't fall into any broad category. Thanks to the list for all the information, I have a few to play with now. Mike </body> </html>