Your right, I did do that the log was taken prior to running startx as a regular user, still as in the previous post I needed to re-configure xorg.conf via "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" Now and after installing Xfce4 I have a functioning gutsy system I should have looked closer at the log I posted I had one as root and another as a reqular user. Now I can continue testing what application I have to see what elese besides ubuntu-desktop is still broken. I had modified xorg.conf to try and get my web cam working on Feisty Fawn amd64 it never did work, I hope Gutsy does better with camera drivers. We shall see. Phil <div>On 5/29/07, Matthew Flaschen <<a href="mailto:matthew.flaschen@gatech.edu">matthew.flaschen@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Phil Pinkerton wrote: > > STARTX: > > Script started on Mon 28 May 2007 07:00:22 AM BRT > # startx Try running it as a regular user. Matt Flaschen -- ubuntu-users mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users </a> </blockquote></div>