<div>On 11/9/06, Cybe R. Wizard <<a href="mailto:cybe_r_wizard@earthlink.net">cybe_r_wizard@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> To the original poster, though, and to Mark, the object is to keep that power /out/ of the hands of a lowly user and only in administrative hands. In the case of a home user those hands are yours. As the first user you /do/ have the administrative power you want/ are used to, you just have to exercise it differently. </blockquote></div> so it seems that there is no way to make myself permanent root outside of the command line. (man what an education and crash course in linux!) for me to have the control i need, then i have to allow all to have wrx on the second hdd that is resting quite comfortably in my file system? i beginning to understand the security linux has over windows, even though it gets in the way sometimes. on the file system volume i can open all directories, even the lost and found directory. i can't open the l&f directory on the other volume, because i don't have permission. all i need to do is be able to have unlimited control on that volume, which is now a directory. i need to copy some directories from a cd to the volume and i'm set to go. i thought it was strange that the disk didn't show in the left pane of places/computer as a separate drive, but does in the right pane, but had to be routed through the file system to be read. once i get this issue solved, i'll be ok. i can live with the rest of the security measures; i like them better than windows. long live linux! (not bad for a newbie, huh?) cheers, dwain