<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Eric,<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Ok, I'm back now...</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">sungem<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>57124<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>0</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">sungem_phy <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>19856<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>1<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>sungem</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">lsmod lists the kernel modules currently loaded into the kernel. Among</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">those modules are the device drivers. Here sungem is the name of the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">network card driver. When I asked you to execute 'lsmod | grep sungem'</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I wanted to verify that your network driver was sungem.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Also, what happens if while you have the "connecting to..." message in</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">firefox you ping the remote machine and leave the ping running? Is</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">firefox moving forward?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">No.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I have to click the stop button and reload or re-enter the URL if it's</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">different.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Otherwise it just sits there.</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Ok. When you first described your problem I immediately thought about</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">a common driver bug, known as the "rotting packet" bug. The fact that</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">ping doesn't make your http request progress makes me think the bug</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">may lie somewhere else. Anyway, it's a hard problem.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Have you experienced the problem with other software than firefox?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>I haven't got around to trying other software yet -- I should try email and whatever else I can. I'll let you know the results when I get there.</DIV><DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Another question for you Mike: does your machine have multiple processors?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>No. Just one 64-bit PowerPC.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Also somebody on the Gentoo list asked me about firewalls but I'm not behind one -- I'm just running from home.</DIV><DIV>I'm also tracking the web forum for Mac users -- somebody had a network hanging problem which was fixed by doing</DIV><DIV>sudo ifup eth1 && ifdown eth1</DIV><DIV>or something like that. I think I'm on eth0, not eth1, but I'm struggling a bit here.</DIV><DIV>Also somebody's suggested it might have to do with dns resolving timeouts. He's given me some things to try. I'm not sure about that, though, since I can ping names and it seems to resolve OK. He suggests I look at /etc/resolv.conf . So I'll try that soon.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>That's all I can think of at this stage. I'll play with it some more as I get time.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Cheers, Mike.</DIV><DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>---------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV> Mike Hore <A href="mailto:mike_hore@aapt.net.au">mike_hore@aapt.net.au</A></DIV><DIV>---------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN> </DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>