<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> So Michael got the spirit of the response, though not the words. :) I really think that in many cases, giving the immediate answer helps a lot. Let's be realistic, many of the Ubuntu users don't really WANT to be techies... Ubuntu is "Linux for human beings"... not for geeks. So don't try to make a geek out of every user who asks a question. Those who want to be geeks, once they see the mount -t iso9660... answer will go and man mount to learn more. I think it is important that in the non geek population of people who try out Ubuntu (instead of Windows), we make their life easier... Not their study of Linux, some of them don't care, just as they don't care how the internals of Windows XP tick... so giving the immediate answer let's them continue happily with their test of Ubuntu (instead of giving them the message of "you can't find it by yourself, so go back to Windows" - which they might). We want more people on Linux... and yes, newbies as well. In fact, the more newbies on Linux, the more we get newbie questions that help us make Linux a more newbie and grandmother friendly operating system. No way am I going back to Yggdrasil. Oh.... and... as Michael points out... if you do find a newbie question irritating, why not take a deep breath, and let somebody less irritated by it answer it. While I certainly find that when you go into details your posts here are extremely valuable, I would prefer less drama and more direct help to the newer users. Let them learn at their pace. Gilles. Alexander Skwar wrote: <blockquote cite="mid4684969.0HdeL0A0an@work.message-center.info" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Gilles Gravier <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Gilles@Gravier.org"><Gilles@Gravier.org></a>: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Alexander, appart from the "you moron" addition, </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Exactly. And that's the important addition which Michael made up. Now, I don't think that the OP is a moron, but I *DO* think that it is right and just to expect that people first google. That really should be a given. </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">whcih I don't really remember as being in the post Michael refers to, the answer #1 was texto what you said. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> Nope, it wasn't. I expressed my wonder, if the OP actually did Google and then pointed the user to the exact spot, were information can be found (ie. "man mount" and then search for "loop"). </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Not being home, I can't find the archived mail, but I am sure one here can. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> eg. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1321337&postcount=5">http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1321337&postcount=5</a> Alexander Skwar </pre> </blockquote> <div class="moz-signature">-- <title>Signature Gilles Gravier</title> <link rel="important stylesheet" href="chrome://messenger/skin/messageBody.css"> <meta content="text/html;" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="content-type"> <meta content="Gilles@Gravier.org" name="author"> <div class="moz-signature"> <div style="text-align: left;"> <table style="text-align: left; background-color: rgb(102, 102, 102); width: 500px; height: 73px;" border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="3"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="text-align: center; vertical-align: middle; background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); white-space: nowrap;"> <div style="text-align: center; background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><tt>Gilles Gravier = <a href="mailto:Gilles@Gravier.org">Gilles@Gravier.org</a> = <a href="http://www.gravier.org/">http://www.gravier.org/</a></tt> </div> <div style="text-align: center; background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><tt>ICQ : <a href="http://www.icq.com/whitepages/about_me.php?Uin=77488526">77488526</a></tt> <tt> || </tt><tt>MSN Messenger : <a href="http://members.msn.com/Gilles@Gravier.org">Gilles@Gravier.org</a></tt><tt> </tt>Skype<tt> : <a href="callto://ggravier">ggravier</a></tt><tt> || </tt><tt>Y! : <a href="http://profiles.yahoo.com/ggravier">ggravier</a></tt><tt style="font-weight: bold;"> || </tt><tt>AOL : <a href="aim:goim?screenname=gillesgravier">gillesgravier</a> </tt><tt>PGP Key ID : <a href="http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x8DE6D026&op=index">0x8DE6D026</a></tt> </div> <div style="text-align: center; background-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><tt>"Chastity is its own punishment." (Solomon Short) [David Gerrold] </tt>"De toutes les aberrations sexuelles, la chasteté est la plus aberrante." [Anatole France] </div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>