<div>hi friends </div> <div>ubuntu is a very great os </div> <div>thank you for supporting for like me people..i need a help on pptp vpn server setup (UBUNTU 5.10) step by step guide...any body help me </div> <div>thanks</div> <div>jagadeesh </div> <div>india ubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Send ubuntu-users mailing list submissions to ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: gui install (Tchize) 2. Re: Don't be left behing- the enlargement revolution! (Mustard) 3. Re: Is a restart REALLY required after an upgrade? (localzuk) 4. Re: Is a restart REALLY required after an upgrade? (localzuk) 5. Re: Problems with OEM installation (Daniel Carrera) 6. Re: Problems with OEM installation (Daniel Carrera) 7. Re: Nero CD/DVD burner equivalent for ubuntu? (Nicolas da Luz Duque) 8. Re: UPDATE: Announcement from www.kubuntu.de (Daniel Carrera) 9. Re: Is a restart REALLY required after an upgrade? (Andrew Zajac) 10. Re: Nero CD/DVD burner equivalent for ubuntu? (Alan McKinnon) 11. Re: UPDATE: Announcement from www.kubuntu.de (Alan McKinnon) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:56:21 +0200 From: Tchize <TCHIZE@MYREALBOX.COM> Subject: Re: gui install To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <UBUNTU-USERS@LISTS.UBUNTU.COM> Message-ID: <443CB2A5.6070001@myrealbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sef a écrit : >To do the install: Follow this excellent tutorial: >http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/ > > > >Then to run command line, just log out (control, alt, back arrow), and > > No need to log out to access text sessions. Use ctrl-alt-F1 (or F2, or F3 ...) to acccess terminal 1, 2 , 3 , ... Also ctrl, alt, backspace is the X magic key to kill the x session. Application won't have a chance to do a clean exit, they will be killed the hard way. I won't recommend using it to logoff an X session. >click on sessions. Change to terminal (or what ever it is called.) > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 09:16:57 +0100 From: Mustard <ULIST@GS1.UBUNTUFORUMS.ORG> Subject: Re: Don't be left behing- the enlargement revolution! To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <MUSTARD.2657LO@GS1.UBUNTUFORUMS.ORG> Do they come in packs of five? -- Mustard ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:13:30 +0100 From: localzuk <ULIST@GS1.UBUNTUFORUMS.ORG> Subject: Re: Is a restart REALLY required after an upgrade? To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <LOCALZUK.2659GB@GS1.UBUNTUFORUMS.ORG> > > Name one. > IIRC, Webmin wasn't very good last time I installed it - it stated that it started webmin up but didn't, and nothing seemed to run when it stated it was doing so... -- localzuk ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:15:48 +0100 From: localzuk <ULIST@GS1.UBUNTUFORUMS.ORG> Subject: Re: Is a restart REALLY required after an upgrade? To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <LOCALZUK.2659GB@GS1.UBUNTUFORUMS.ORG> > > That's not how it works. The only thing that requires a reboot are > kernel > changes. There are no packages in the ubuntu repositories with > incompetent > or lazy maintainers who would have you reboot just to get the > /etc/init.d/script to be restarted. > So you are telling me that in over 15000 packages, there is not one, that when updated, that doesn't auto-restart itself? I think not. Stating 'Name one' is a childish exercise - it doesn't prove anything, other than your own lack of wanting to discover the facts yourself and/or not wanting to know the truth. Some packages are not very well maintained. Period. -- localzuk ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:16:59 +0100 From: Daniel Carrera <DANIEL.CARRERA@ZMSL.COM> Subject: Re: Problems with OEM installation To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <UBUNTU-USERS@LISTS.UBUNTU.COM> Message-ID: <443CC58B.1000003@zmsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Antony Gelberg wrote: > I haven't tried an OEM install myself, but if you can get a shell with > Alt-F2, you might be able to chroot to the target installation and run > passwd, at the very end of the install. The OEM install actually creates a temporary sudoer account called 'oem' which you can use to run updates, install new software and make configurations. I guess that I /could/ enable the root account. I have mixed feelings about that though. > I think that this highlights that you are slightly trying to fit a round > peg into a square hole. Generally, in the OEM world, the end-user is > the admin as well. Yes. I think that it would be most unusual for an OEM to also admin. And really, the main reason why I'd like to admin is to upgrade him to Dapper when it comes out. Maybe I should just leave him with Breezy. Best, Daniel. -- /\/`) http://opendocumentfellowship.org /\/_/ /\/_/ A life? Sounds great! \/_/ Do you know where I could download one? / ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:19:36 +0100 From: Daniel Carrera <DANIEL.CARRERA@ZMSL.COM> Subject: Re: Problems with OEM installation To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <UBUNTU-USERS@LISTS.UBUNTU.COM> Message-ID: <443CC628.7040603@zmsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Colin Watson wrote: > If this is Dapper, OEM installation is known-broken at the moment > because I've simply been too busy with the live CD installer to fix it > up to take account of various installer changes. I'll try to allocate > time to fix it soon. No, this is Breezy. Best, Daniel. -- /\/`) http://opendocumentfellowship.org /\/_/ /\/_/ A life? Sounds great! \/_/ Do you know where I could download one? / ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 11:47:49 +0200 From: Nicolas da Luz Duque <HOT_BOY@SKYNET.BE> Subject: Re: Nero CD/DVD burner equivalent for ubuntu? To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <1144835269.5543.27.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" <BIG snip> I hope all of you are aware that in ubuntu, data CD burning should be done with nautilus (with simple drag and drop of the file - couldn't be easier) and serpentine should be used for audio CD's. These apps are supported in ubuntu and others might be less supported. They are simple to use and very effective. I don't see why someone would want to use something else: others app will be less supported as I already said, they wouldn't be as well integrated into the environment as the default ones. I'm sure power users might have good reasons not to use the default apps. But here you're advising someone who's obviously new to linux (hence his question about a *Nero* equivalent). I even saw one of you advising nerolinux which is *not even free software* ! It is so *not* ubuntu-spirit ! New users should be advised to stick to the defaults to have a fully supported distribution. That way, they'll be able to get all the help they need. Otherwise not (especially with non-free software). With less help from the community, and more bug and problems due to non supported apps, the new user is more likely to think that the whole thing doesn't work. Which could lead him to return to his previous (proprietary?) OS... -- Nicolas da Luz Duque Jabber <ICEMAN@JABBER.BELNET.BE> GPG 1024D/89533945 | 4646 3449 8BB1 D2E9 6122 08B2 084E 7833 8953 3945 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Not much else though. -- /\/`) http://opendocumentfellowship.org /\/_/ /\/_/ A life? Sounds great! \/_/ Do you know where I could download one? / ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:59:10 -0400 From: "Andrew Zajac" <ARZAJAC@GMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Is a restart REALLY required after an upgrade? To: "Ubuntu Help and User Discussions" <UBUNTU-USERS@LISTS.UBUNTU.COM> Message-ID: <65241ce50604120259k583246f4wf8d2125c5c061f7e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On 4/12/06, Dennis Kaarsemaker <DENNIS@KAARSEMAKER.NET>wrote: > > On di, 2006-04-11 at 20:21 -0400, Andrew Zajac wrote: > > Name one. > > dbus - If I understood it correctly, nothing is required to survive a > dbus restart, which means reboots are neccessary when dbus gets updated. I didn't know that. I stand corrected. On 4/12/06, localzuk <ULIST@GS1.UBUNTUFORUMS.ORG>wrote: > > > So you are telling me that in over 15000 packages, there is not one, > that when updated, that doesn't auto-restart itself? I think not. ... Some packages are not very well > maintained. Period. > > If you need to reboot your box to get something working, whatever. If it works for you, fine. That does not mean that that is the proper way of doing things, though. The "restart required" notification was not created because of shoddy packaging. There are reasons for starting and stopping services. Where do you expect the webmin package maintainer to flash the "restart required" icon, if you are not running X? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/attachments/20060412/d0580ef6/attachment-0001.htm ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:12:37 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon <ALAN@LINUXHOLDINGS.CO.ZA> Subject: Re: Nero CD/DVD burner equivalent for ubuntu? To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <200604121212.38042.alan@linuxholdings.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Wednesday 12 April 2006 06:10, C Hamel wrote: > I had to chuckle & Bry's note... not much left, huh. Â Then I come > down to yours & realize I've got company. Â My problem is partly a > CD-R drive which is starting to become a little flakey. Â I Â can > burn an ISO to CD w/o any fuss but can't seem to burn a CD-RW to > save my used-to-be-sizeable you-know-what. I have an IDE --> USB > converter cable on which I would hook one of two CD/DVD burners and > that, too, has gone south on me. :-\ <LOL>Â Guess I'm going to have > to burn DVDs & CD-RWs on my rarely-used (because it has XP on it) > desktop box. A quick comment on optical drives in general: These things are notoriously fickle and subject to weird behaviour. I spent more years of my life than I care to remember fixing them - everything from cheap CD players to high-end audio players to PC equipment, and often it felt like getting decent laser units was more like a lottery than anything else. Quality varies widely and it was common to get a good shipment from a reputable supplier, and the next shipment was junk. Same items, same markings, apparently same original manufacturer but one worked and one didn't. Go figure. It's not just the el-cheapo units that are affected, I see the same thing happening with Toshiba, Sony and Matsushita's stuff. Expected life these days from a CD reader is about 18 months, writers vary much more. A quick easy way to check them is to look directly at the laser lens (with the thing off of course). If it appears discoloured with a yellowish tinge, it's on the way out. The laser power level can be varied by software control, and excessive current burns the lens like this. If you are finding that a drive works OK in Windows but not in Linux, the most likely explanation is that the Linux code was not written with today's cr@p lasers in mind and is burning them out. Not much you can do about that except change the code. -- If only you and dead people understand hex, how many people understand hex? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:41:35 +0200 From: Alan McKinnon <ALAN@LINUXHOLDINGS.CO.ZA> Subject: Re: UPDATE: Announcement from www.kubuntu.de To: ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <200604121241.35351.alan@linuxholdings.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Wednesday 12 April 2006 11:57, Daniel Carrera wrote: > Michael T. Richter wrote: > > *ped·ant* > > /n./ > > > > 1. One who pays undue attention to book learning and formal > > rules. 2. One who exhibits one's learning or scholarship > > ostentatiously. 3. /_Obsolete._/ A schoolmaster. > > > > Just FYI. ;) > > > :) Yes, I'm pedant about a few things. Most notably "principal" vs > > "principle" and "then" vs "than". Not much else though. So that means you aren't into the there/their/they're thing then? :-) -- If only you and dead people understand hex, how many people understand hex? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five ------------------------------ -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users End of ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 20, Issue 170 ********************************************* </BLOCKQUOTE> </BIG> <hr size=1>New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. <a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman5/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39666/*http://beta.messenger.yahoo.com">Call regular phones from your PC</a> and save big.