<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> I'm a recent Gnome convert (windows and mandrake). The nuvola theme on Ubuntu's "clean" install is a great UI IMHO. The only issue I see long term with Gnome vs KDE is market penetration. To date, the numbers I've seen show KDE being deployed at a ratio of at least 2:1 compared to Gnome - I'd be happy to be corrected on this. History doesn't seem to care which is the better technology but which gets critical mass first. If we think back to the last 30 years, a lot of second best technologies seem to win out. I'm not saying KDE is second best, but the point I'm making is even if Gnome is technically superior, that tends to be irrelevant, it's who gets that mass first. Some examples: Beta vs VHS Z80 vs 8080 68000 vs 80186, 80286, 80386 CPM/80 vs MS-DOS (early versions) Alpha vs Pentium/Xeon PowerPC vs Pentium/Xeon OS/2 vs MS Windows Mac vs PC MacOS vs MS Windows How well have all the products on the left done? Primarily niche markets to date. Let's try to get Ubuntu (or at least Debian based distro's - stable with simple to use package mgt) a critical mass of market share. i.e. in the right hand column :-) If we need KDE & Gnome to do that so be it. Let's target them as options in Ubuntu and highlight they have different primary aims or objectives. For example: Gnome a full featured stable, clean and functional desktop for corporate and home office use. KDE a full featured desktop with many utils pre-installed lots of eye candy, suitable for gaming and multimedia. The above are just examples before I step on anyone's toes :-) Std disclaimer, this is just my 2c worth on the issue. <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Kind Regards Russ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.windsorcycles.com.au">http://www.windsorcycles.com.au</a> </pre> Matt Zimmerman wrote: <blockquote cite="mid20050109033023.GA8709@alcor.net" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 12:58:10PM -0500, Quest-Master wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre wrap="">IMO, if the Ubuntu users want KDE, just use another distro or install it from Universe. I'm sure an outrage would erupt if development time was split between Gnome and KDE. </pre> </blockquote> <pre wrap=""> >From what I have seen so far, there are enough people willing to work on KDE in Ubuntu that it wouldn't detract significantly from the work being done on GNOME. </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>