Ubuntu 18.04 certbot upgrade

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 2023-05-22 at 18:08 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> hi,
> Am Montag, dem 22.05.2023 um 16:35 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf via
> ubuntu-users:
> > On Mon, 2023-05-22 at 23:14 +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> > > After i prepare another test machine (Ubuntu 18.04 LTS), i
> > > will test snap/snapd and apt with together at there.
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > those containerised apps are e.g. problematic, if sharing data is
> > wanted, like this:
> > 
> 
> before becoming so pathetic and stirring fear to other users, you
> should really do some proper research first !
> 
> the certbot snap is a classic snap with no containerization,
> confinement or restrictions, it simply uses the snap packaging for
> transactional and delta updates and greater security, but that's about
> it ...

Hi,

the user asked a general question. Neither the question nor my reply are
related to certbot snap. Snap and flatpak might have some pros, but for
most home computer users who are using Linux to customize their home
computers to their taste, without limits, those are the ultimate step
into the wrong direction.

I can also imagine less professional areas in which these approaches
make sense.

The strengths of BSD and Linux are domains where the use of shared
libraries makes much more sense.

That so much is virtualized, "docked" or containerized these days is a
passing fad.

Today I read this signature in an email sent to a BSD mailing list:

"We build our computer systems the way we build our cities; over time,
without a plan, on top of ruins.
			— Ellen Ullman"

By the way, I hope that firefighters are not trained in a metaverse. In
a Meta Sucker-Berg commercial, a girl is "petting" a mammoth, so she's
not actually petting anything. It's definitely better for kids to pet a
real guinea pig than a mammoth in a metaverse.

There is a zeitgeist and certain things stay while other things come and
go.

"Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and MX Linux are considered the easiest for new
users who want to get productive in Linux as soon as possible without
having to master all its complexities. On the other end of the spectrum,
Arch Linux, Gentoo, and Slackware Linux are more advanced distributions
that require plenty of learning before they can be used effectively.
openSUSE, Fedora, Debian GNU/Linux can be classified as good "middle-
road" distributions which are often used as the basis for other
distributions." -
https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major&language=EN

You can also express it differently. There are distributions that follow
fashion more and others that don't. What is good for the smartphone is
not necessarily suitable for the BSD or Linux desktop PC or server.

Btw. for testing purpose my first choice for my next test install was
MX Linux, but due to iSH, it might be Alpine Linux.

Regards,
Ralf