Ubuntu with Minix 2.0 3-Clause BSD licence to GPL-3 licince

[Liam Proven]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 15:16, Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> [ ... a lot of helpful things ... ]

Oh, my, thank you!

> adding to what liam said above, with the decision of debian to fully
> rely on systemd and ubuntu following that decision, there is
> technically no way to replace the linux kernel with something like
> minix or BSD while wanting to keep a functional init system around ...
>
> systemd is 100% reliant on the linux kernel and features it provides so
> you would not have a bootable userspace anymore.

That is a very good point, and I did not think of it.

For what it's worth, I have been exploring systemd-free distros for a
while now, partly because readers keep asking about them.

Devuan is hard work, and each version get harder and more complicated. :-(

In the Debian family, MX Linux is really good now. Quick, polished,
somewhat lightweight, easy to install and just works. much easier than
Devuan, and much more polished than its own ancestor antiX Linux.

For super lightweight,  I also like Alpine Linux. Not only does it
remove systemd, it also removes glibc and uses Musl instead. It is one
of the smallest fastest desktop distros I have seen, but it is hard to
install.

All these non-systemd distros use old-style shell-script based init systems.

The non-systemd distro with the most promise, for me, is Chimera... It
replaces systemd and most of the userland with parts taken from
FreeBSD, which means it is richer and more functional than the
others... but it is not finished yet.

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