I would like to install Ubuntu on my Nexus 10 / Manta using?? kernel version 6.1.4

Robert Heller heller at deepsoft.com
Wed Jun 28 17:42:02 UTC 2023 


At Wed, 28 Jun 2023 18:58:59 +0200 Mario Marietto <marietto2008 at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> ---> You probably need much more than a tutorial.  :-(  If you want a Linux
> tablet,the easiest option would be something like this.
> 
> Nope. I don't want to buy anything. I want to learn. I need the right
> documentation to understand how to use the mainline linux kernel on my
> nexus 10 + how to apply those patches. I don't want to change the hardware.
> I already have my Nexus 10. I need good documentation,focused,concise and
> that goes straight to the points to the goal that I want to achieve.

Well, the thing is, you got the *wrong* hardware for that. Nexus 10 is
*intended* as a "closed" / "black box" machine: it runs the Android tablet OS
and is not really a machine for tinkering (low-level learning) with. If you
want a machine to learn how to build and deploy your own kernel or distro, you
need to get a machine that is designed (or at least has support) for that
purpose. A machine that includes a serial console and has documentation and a
support community. From what I can tell, the Nexus 10 is like an iPad: it is
intended for end-user tablet users, who are not looking to run anything but
the "factory supplied" O/S (Android) and standard App Store apps. It is not a
machine meant for "tinkering with" -- the Raspberry Pi and the other "flavor"
Pis are specificly designed for tinkering -- the original philosophy of the
Raspberry Pi Foundation was to create a cheap little computer that anybody
(including esp. children) could afford to buy and "tinker" with: write their
own software both applications and yes, even whole OSes from the ground up, if
they so choose. The various other "flavor" Pis follow the same philosophy
(more or less). Yes, an *experienced* developer has been able to get a
mainline Linux kernel to run on it, but it sounds like it is something of a
"hack", probably not really a newbie thing.  

> 
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 5:57 PM Robert Heller <heller at deepsoft.com> wrote:
> 
> > At Wed, 28 Jun 2023 17:42:10 +0200 "Ubuntu user technical support,? not
> > for general discussions" <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Ciao Oli,
> > >
> > > please give a look at this post :
> > >
> > https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/kernel-mainlining-manta-kernel.4461617/
> > >
> > > and you will read that those two developers have been able to make work
> > the
> > > most important components of the nexus 10. I want to do the same,but
> > since
> > > I'm a newbie,I miss the overall comprension of the whole process. I need
> > a
> > > tutorial,even if not so specific,to understand what to do.
> >
> > You probably need much more than a tutorial.  :-(  If you want a Linux
> > tablet,
> > the easiest option would be something like this:
> >
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-10-1-Touchscreen-Display-Housing/dp/B08L6J42VM
> >
> > Raspberry Pis run Debian (which is what Ubuntu is based on), but this
> > should
> > be "close enough".  I don't know how available Raspberry Pis are at
> > present
> > (the chip supply chain is "catching up", so maybe not too bad).  Other
> > Pi-ish
> > SBCs might be more available and some do have Ubuntu images available (eg
> > Orange Pis, Odroid M1s, and others), and these boards should also work
> > with
> > the 10" touch screen (might not fit the mounting in the touch screen like
> > a
> > Raspberry Pi would, but the cabling will work)
> >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 5:22 PM Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > hi,
> > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 28.06.2023 um 15:33 +0200 schrieb Mario Marietto:
> > > > > Hello.
> > > > >
> > > > > excuse me for the lack of knowledge,but with the code stored on the
> > > > > githubs below :
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > https://github.com/alexmrqt/manta-mainline/tree/f4c38a7867f4e0e7481b71f96a0d0b4116b41c0f
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can I install one of the latest Linux kernel versions on the Nexus 10
> > > >
> > > > we used to support the nexus 5, 7 and 10 with the ubuntu phone project
> > > > (i personally did the porting to all three devices back then) ... but
> > > > we dropped the phone project in 2014 and handed it over to the ubports
> > > > community.
> > > >
> > > > looking at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ it seems only the nexus 5
> > > > is left on the list of supported devices with recent ubports images...
> > > >
> > > > that said, it will very likely use a very old kerel since it needs to
> > > > be working wih the proprietary graphics drivers from android and the
> > > > mainline kernel will miss the patches required for this.
> > > >
> > > > so while you might be able to get something booting with a lot of
> > > > tinkering and learning about the boot process, you will very likely
> > > > only be able to run something headless or via the framebuffer driver
> > > > which will end up looking more like a slideshow when moving the mouse
> > > > pointer... i.e. do not expect this to be usable as a tablet ...
> > > >
> > > > the ubuntu arm userspace should indeed run without issue so you can use
> > > > debootstrap to create a rootfs or grab one of the ubuntu-base tarballs
> > > > from cdimage.ubuntu.com but unless you are after gaining some academic
> > > > knowledge i'd not waste time with it...
> > > >
> > > > ciao
> > > >         oli
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