Ubuntu installers?

[Liam Proven]

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 10:43, Ralf Mardorf via ubuntu-users
<ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:

> That does work more or less for iPadOS, since the hardware of the
> available devices is known and by default it has got an underlying
> allround software infrastructure. But even on iPadOS it often fails to
> work.
>
> It does not work for Linux that is aimed to run on countless hardware
> combinations and is missing an underlying allround infrastructure.

You would be surprised. It works well for EndlessOS, Fedora
Silverblue, Fedora Kinoite and others. It works for Ubuntu Core but
that has no desktop.

> There are attempts to establish the mentioned infrastructure for

> PS: Since you wrote about FreeBSD. It's comparable to the non-user
> friendly, but user-centric Arch Linux, with ports and packages.

True up to a point. FreeBSD is much "cleaner" and more traditional
than any Linux, but it still has about 3 package sources:

 - from FreeBSD's own repos of compiled software
 - for things missing there, from the "ports" tree; compile it yourself
 - for things in the above 2 that are too old, fetch from Git, compile locally

Amazingly the desktop-setup script does the 3rd of the above. It
automates getting you a working desktop but it takes a long time, the
result can't be updated with normal FreeBSD update tools, and needs a
largely-undocumented admin TUI tool to be used.

It's a bit of a mess.

But I built a highly workable Xfce 4 desktop on FreeBSD 13.1 by
hand-installing all the packages needed for X.org, Xfce 4.16, a
browser, LibreOffice etc.

It's a long job and there is not enough documentation but it did work,
very well, and was very stable.


> AFAIK
> all end-user friendly FreeBSD "distros" were short-dated, they did not
> exist for a very long time or tend to follow FreeBSD very slowly.

PC-BSD was renamed TrueOS (bad idea) then killed (bad idea).
FuryBSD begat the Hello System (nice OS) and then killed (shame).

Midnight BSD and Ghost BSD are still around, AFAIK. I don't like
Ghost's Xfce themes and so on -- it looks amateurish and childish --
but it does work.

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