GNOME drops mailing lists end of this month

[Bret Busby]

On 21/10/22 23:44, Ralf Mardorf via ubuntu-users wrote:
> On Fri, 2022-10-21 at 16:08 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
>> Why are you bothered if all you use is Evolution?  Presumably you will
>> only use it occasionally so what does it matter if discourse is not
>> entirely to your liking.  Just put up with it on the odd occasion when
>> you need to use it.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> mailing lists are good, since somebody always provides a little heads-
> up. A huge official mailing list community stays in touch. Unofficial
> mailing lists or forums are something completely different, that doesn't
> work as good as a mailing list, at least not for BSD/Linux users in
> favour of email,

** emphasis on this part ***
  who don't want t use a web browser to join a forum,
> just to stay in touch related to topics about an email client.
> 

This reminds me a bit of the Danny de Vito quote, indicating that 
military intelligence is an oxymoron.

I think it reasonable to question why people have to join a forum, 
rather than a mailing list, to get support for using an email application.

Kind of makes a person wonder about the state of mind, of the people 
responsible for such a decision ("here is an axe - but, to use it, you 
have to use a shovel").

> I wonder what other users think about this. In my opinion it affects
> Ubuntu a lot (not Ubuntu flavours using different environments ;).
> 

No - wrong it affects users of different "flavours", and, different 
versions of Linux, using different desktop environments, and, is not 
limited to Ubuntu using the gnome desktop environment.

I run gnome applications (that have been renamed to hide that they are 
from gnome), such as "Text editor" (previously, when openness and 
accountability prevailed, known as gedit), and, I use gedit (in its 
concealment guise, known as "Text editor"), as my preferred GUI text 
editor (when I am editing system files, I use vi), on Ubuntu Mate, and, 
Linux Mint Mate 21, and, I am sure that users of other gnome products, 
like gdebi, gparted, Ekiga, etc, etc, etc, use them on systems other 
than with gnome desktop environments, like people use some kde 
applications, like kmail and kontact and konqueror, etc, etc, etc, on 
systems other than with kde desktop environments,


> However, GNOME is important for a lot of BSD and Linux infrastructure,
> in the end it affects all BSD and Linux users in some way, if the GNOME
> community is torn to pieces.
> 

As indicated in my above statement.

> Regards,
> Ralf
> 
> [1] “There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning
> charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning
> department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had
> plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to
> start making a fuss about it now. … What do you mean you’ve never been
> to Alpha Centauri? Oh, for heaven’s sake, mankind, it’s only four light
> years away, you know. I’m sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to take an
> interest in local affairs, that’s your own lookout. Energize the
> demolition beams.”
> 
> ― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
> 

Ah, Douglas Adams may have written the record of what happened, but, it 
was the Vogon captain who said it (we should cite the speaker of the 
words)...

It is like the quote from my older signature;

"
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
  you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
   written by Douglas Adams,
   published by Pan Books, 1992
"

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Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
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