WINE - was - Re: Budget-priced Windows license

[Aaron Rainbolt]

On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 4:42 PM Bret Busby <bret at busby.net> wrote:
>
> On 25/5/22 3:02 am, Aaron Rainbolt wrote:
> > On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 5:52 AM Bret Busby <bret at busby.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 24/5/22 5:30 pm, Liam Proven wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 23 May 2022 at 15:34, Little Girl <littlergirl at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It was ratings like those that convinced me to stop using Wine.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It is a *lot* better than it used to be.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/19/wine_7/
> >>>
> >>> Which is why I wrote that article, in fact.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Okay; I have read the article, after seeing the above post, but...
> >>
> >> When I visited the wine web site, to try to find how easy it would be,
> >> to install and use it on UbuntuMATE 20.10, the install procedure appears
> >> to be quite complicated, and, too risky (it requires 32 bit libraries,
> >> that apparently conflict with the Ubuntu 64 bit libraries, or
> >> something), and, it appears to be not available as a downloadable and
> >> installable package for 20.10.
> >
> > Do you mean 20.04? 20.10 is end-of-life, and has been for almost a year.
> >
> > Just for in case you didn't know this already, using an end-of-life
> > Ubuntu release is a good way to get hacked. You're missing about 10
> > months of critical security updates (most likely including web browser
> > updates), which leaves you open to all sorts of junk. One wrong click
> > during web browsing could result in a malware infection. I believe
> > I've gotten hacked in the past (on Linux!) from failing to keep my
> > system up to date, and the recovery process was not fun (I had to
> > reinstall my OS entirely, and I still have yet to dig up my old data
> > out of my last disk image backup).
> >
> >> And, while 20.10, for the moment, like 16.04, my preferred version,
> >> seems to be running okay, I found the versions later than 20.10, to be
> >> too problematic.
> >
> > Maybe you could explain what problems you've been having? That's why
> > we're here! Just keep in mind that, even if you have to hop to a
> > different Ubuntu flavor or even to a totally different distro
> > altogether in order to get an up-to-date and enjoyable computing
> > experience, it's better than continuing to use end-of-life software.
> > You'll be a lot more upset if you lose your data than if you have to
> > use a less enjoyable distro. (Though if the distros are getting worse
> > as time goes on, we'd like to know about it so we can fix it!)
> >
>
> I had previously, some time ago, mentioned, on the list, the problems
> that I encountered.
>
> I had had the later versions installed, and, with what they did, the
> only versions that still operate, now, are, on one computer, 20.10, and,
> on the other, 16.04. The third system was completely corrupted, and,
> now, awaits the work to do a complete system rebuild, or, going back to
> MS Windows 7, that, I believe, is still installed on it, and. I expect,
> would be able to boot. None of the Linux installations on that computer,
> are now usable.
>
> I am aware of the expectation that a computer operating system is
> supposed to be kept updated to the latest available version, for the
> sake of security.
>
> I had to abandon that principle, for the sake of usability.
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> (UTC+0800)
> ..............

Well, that makes sense. I've only joined the list recently, however,
so it's very possible I missed the problems you mentioned. I'd be
interested in helping, if you're interested in letting me know what
went wrong. But if you're comfortable with the way things are, then I
guess don't worry about it. Just do yourself a favor and keep frequent
backups.