Plasma update?

[Liam Proven]

On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 05:00, rikona <rikona at sonic.net> wrote:

> As I said in my original email, this was a POPUP WINDOW with the
> following, between the "s, in the POPUP WINDOW:

That doesn't really answer the question, but if you don't know what
program it was, that is OK. Don't obsess over it.

It is normal on Ubuntu variants that the OS prompts you when a new
version is available.

Short-term releases do this after the next version. So, for instance,
if you have 22.10, it will tell you about the upgrade soon after 23.04
comes out next year.

Long-term releases (April in even-numbered years) are more cautious.
They don't tell you about short-term versions. They only tell you when
the following LTS comes out, and even then, they wait until after the
point-one release, which is roughly 6 months later.

So, if you have 20.04, it will not prompt you to upgrade when 22.04
comes out but when 22.04.1 comes out.

Which I have written about:
https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/12/ubuntu_22041/

It was in August.

If you don't do the upgrade, it will continue to nag you for a while,
unless you tell it not to.

> So, if running Kubuntu, I do
> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y
> which does not move me to any new release, does that ALSO update the
> KDE desktop etc, since I'm upgrading 'everything'? Or does it leave KDE
> at the '20 level?

I cannot really answer this question, because you are still labouring
under a false assumption.

There are no different chunks or layers here.

Kubuntu is an OS. It's one thing.

You seem to think it's 2 things: that it's one thing, Ubuntu, wedged
in with another thing, KDE. It's not. It's a whole.

Even if you installed ordinary GNOME Ubuntu and then installed KDE,
it's still a whole. All software that comes from the Ubuntu
repositories is part of Ubuntu. It's one integral unit.

When you update it, you update all of it, in one go.

The different bits come from different teams working in different
countries  but once they are in the repositories those become part of
Ubuntu.

That does however mean that some bits may "wear out" first, before
other bits. If you buy the ingredients for a simple meal like a bowl
of cornflakes, you might buy 3 things: some cornflakes, some sugar to
go on top, and some milk.

Cornflakes are dry. They don't go bad. But they gradually go stale. An
open bag of cornflakes will not taste great after a year and after 2
or 3 years it will be less pleasant to eat.

Sugar doesn't really go bad. Even if it gets slightly damp and goes
lumpy, it tastes the same. You can break the lumps up and it's still
just sugar.

Milk goes bad fast. Even sterilized milk, once you open it, even if
you keep it in the fridge.

If you bought an all-in-one breakfast pack containing cereal, milk,
and sugar, and you open the packages within and eat half, then the
sugar will last for years, the cornflakes a year, but the milk will go
back in a week or two.

Even if someone puts them in one packet for you.

Ubuntu is a one-packet breakfast. You open the packet by installing
it. You consume it as one whole.

But the KDE bit goes bad faster than the text-only bits and you need
to use that up and replace it.

That means a whole new breakfast pack, because you chose an all-in-one
package. The shelf life is shorter because you bought it all in 1
convenient box, but the milk still goes bad.

If you chose the GNOME flavour, Canonical promises to keep it updated
for 5 years.

But you didn't choose the GNOME flavour. You chose the KDE flavour.
All the alternative flavours go bad quicker and you should not use
them for 5 years because some bits may go bad.

So by choosing an alternative flavour, you chose something with a
shorter shelf life. If you prefer that flavour, fine, good for you,
but you need to accept that shorter shelf-life.

It has gone out of date. It is time to open a new packet. It has told
you this. So do it.

It's one packet. You can't readily upgrade just one bit and not the rest.

If you have Kubuntu and you update Kubuntu you update *all of Kubuntu*.



> When I run
> sudo -s
> do-release-upgrade
> is this when both Ubuntu AND KDE get upgraded to 22.04? I want to stick
> with the long term releases. I do not want to end up with 22.10 etc.

It is one piece. You cannot separate out the bits. Stop trying. It is
all Kubuntu. Update it and you update it all.

> Any idea why the 'upgrade' via the popup window was a total failure? Is
> the CLI route really always the best way to go?

No idea really. I do not use Kubuntu. I do not like KDE. Sorry, can't
help you there.

One of the big reasons Linux techies advise command-line based tools
is that we can give you exactly what to type, and you can copy and
paste that on the computer itself, which means it's very unlikely to
introduce typos or misspellings or CAPITALS where it needs to be small
or whatever.

And similarly, if or when it replies, you can copy and paste that.

Whereas with graphical apps, you can't. Which is why you are reduced
to trying to _described_ a pop-up box on your computer, something I
have never seen and probably never will, and I don't know exactly what
you mean. So I can't trouble shoot it.

There may have been an extra icon down in the system notification area
with more info that is vital, but you didn't notice it and so you are
not telling me. I can't work from that. Maybe someone who knew Kubuntu
could, but I don't know Kubuntu. I occasionally evaluate it and write
about it, e.g.

https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/01/kubuntu_and_lubuntu_get_optionalextra/

If you look at the first and second screenshot there, there's a big
and important difference between them. Can you spot it?

 Hint: it is not any text on screen.

This is an intentional test, in an attempt to try to illustrate the
problem of describing a picture in words

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