Is it a brick?

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 11 October 2021 12:22:55 Liam Proven wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at 18:09, Grizzly via ubuntu-users
>
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > It is only on my systems as a option, I used to use "123
> > UniversialUSB installer" but moved to LinuxLive (also rather old)
> > when USb's from 123 stopped booting, (that has changed back again)
>
> Never heard of either of them.
>
> I suggest, where possible, sticking to the most mainstream tools
> available.
>
> Ubuntu has a disk-writer built in. That's a good choice.
> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#3-launch-sta
>rtup-disk-creator
>
> > If you mean the Live Win7 I used a dedicated tool & a Win7 ISO
>
> Again, *you are not reading what I wrote.*
>
> If you want help getting this machine going again, you MUST read
> exactly what people are telling you.
>
> I said, do not trust a 3rd party "live Windows USB" to do things like
> write firmware. I was advising against using such things.
>
> If I advise against them then that would not be what I was talking
> about, would it?
>
> I said "to write a Windows USB".
>
> I mean, to make a normal standard Windows USB from a normal standard
> Windows ISO file as supplied from Microsoft.com.
>
> > I use for most of my Ubuntu USB's but have not tried for non-Ubuntu
> > USB's
>
> Use what?
>
> > UNetbootin seems to have been dropped from the "default" install, I
> > guess that a apt install would cure that, (even though
> >
> > apt-cache policy unetbootin
> >
> > showed nothing)
>
> Yes, it's been dropped.
> It's still out there though:
> https://unetbootin.github.io/
>
> I would suggest looking for and using the standard Ubuntu tool,
> though. Or, on Windows, yes, Rufus is fine but as I said slow.
>
> Balena Etcher is big but it does the job, it's current and it's
> totally free.
>
And so far for me Liam, on rpi3-4 micro-sd's, has been a total it won't 
boot failure. Makeing usb bootable keys has not been tried, the pi's I 
have, have ignored the command to make them boot from anything but the 
micro-sd. Asking questions about it on their forum is verboten and is 
ignored. Asking again gets your ipv4 address blocked.

> https://www.balena.io/etcher/
>
> Don't cling on to obsolete tools if there are decent modern
> replacements available.

> > If I need another Usb Boot USB I will use the one made by
> > "ActiveKillDisk BootUSBCreater" it has a memory manager that gives
> > 32Mb Ram (only found that when doing a unrelated job)
>
> It won't help. The maximum size for a DOS program is the same as it
> was in 1981: 640 kB. DOS can't run anything bigger (well, without
> delving into DOS extenders and things but that gets very complicated.)
>
> Tools like BIOS flash tools are usually kept as simple as possible so
> there's less to go wrong.
>
> So getting as much of that 640 kB free as you readily can is the
> question here.
>
> Anything over 640 kB means they're talking about memory-extension
> schemes (EMS, XMS, etc.) and those don't apply here.
>
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> > >In my experience it takes on the order of an hour to write a
> > > Windows USB, but at least with Rufus you can rely on the resulting
> > > key working.
> >
> > If you mean the Live Win7 I used a dedicated tool & a Win7 ISO
> >
> > >To write a Linux key I use `dd` or UNetbootin or the Ubuntu
> > >Startup Disk Creator or something -- they only take 5-10min.
> >
> > I use for most of my Ubuntu USB's but have not tried for non-Ubuntu
> > USB's
> >
> > UNetbootin seems to have been dropped from the "default" install, I
> > guess that a apt install would cure that, (even though
> >
> > apt-cache policy unetbootin
> >
> > showed nothing)
> >
> > >The only one of those that has a built-in function to make a
> > > FreeDOS USB is Unetbootin, but it includes a really old version of
> > > FreeDOS -- version 1.0. That's a decade old or something like
> > > that, and you'd be _much_ better off grabbing an ISO of 1.2 from
> > > the freedos.org website, or just using MS-DOS.
> >
> > If I need another Usb Boot USB I will use the one made by
> > "ActiveKillDisk BootUSBCreater" it has a memory manager that gives
> > 32Mb Ram (only found that when doing a unrelated job)
> >
> >
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Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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