Anyone running Server on a Raspberry Pi 4?

[Tom H]

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:27 PM Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 30.07.2020, 18:39 +0200 schrieb Tom H:
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:37 PM Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Am Samstag, den 25.07.2020, 12:19 +0200 schrieb Tom H:
>>>>
>>>> In Ubuntu, installing NM installs some components useful for X
>>>> installations only. I asked whether the dependencies could be
>>>> reduced a few years ago and I was told "no." That's life :)
>>>
>>> you should probably take a look at the network-manager snap then ;)
>>>
>>> it is used by a bunch of our IoT customers on IoT devices (with
>>> classic server install as well as on Ubuntu Core) and AFAIK it
>>> doesnt
>>> bring any X dependency along (and should not really be installed on
>>> desktops)...
>>
>> Wow. Many thanks. It's weird to think that a system's networking can
>> be provided by a snap. LOL
>
> well, we have kernels, bootloaders. cli apps and lots of server snaps
> too ... there is even a "wifi-ap" snap that makes it easy to turn a
> srver or core install into an AP ... :)
>
> there are even things like strongswan or easyvpn snapped in the store

I'm amazed. I didn't think that snaps could/would replace low-level
system components like this.


>>   latest/stable:    1.2.2-26      2020-07-13 (573) 4MB -
>>   latest/candidate: 1.2.2-26      2020-07-13 (573) 4MB -
>>   latest/beta:      1.2.2-26      2020-07-07 (573) 4MB -
>>   latest/edge:      1.2.2-27-dev  2020-07-10 (586) 4MB -
>> ...
>>
>> $ dpkg -l network-manager | g ^ii
>> ii  network-manager 1.26.0-1ubuntu1 amd64        network management
>> framework (daemon and userspace tools)
>>
>> The "1.2.2-26" and "1.2.2-27" must be incorrect.
>
> the default tracks are built against a 16.04 base snap, xenial
> released originally with 1.1.93 so the 1.2.2 might actually be
> correct here ...
>
> the 1.10 tracks are most likely built against 18.04 and the 20/*
> tracks are WIP for a 20.04 base (most likely switching to 1.26 to be
> in sync with the 20.04 release before a 20/stable release shows up )
> ...

I really thought that "1.2.2-26" and "1.2.2-27" must've been "1.26"
and "1.27". LOL

But, https://core.docs.ubuntu.com/ says:

20: Contains upstream 1.22.10 and has a core20 base...

1.10: Contains upstream 1.10.6 and has a core18 base...

latest: Contains upstream 1.2.2 and has a core16 base. Despite the
unfortunate name (there are historical reasons for that) it is the
oldest version.