(not) one browser for all - Was: Software repository failure

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Tue, 2019-07-16 at 14:20 +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 at 10:33, Ralf Mardorf via ubuntu-users
> <ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm using several browsers and dislike all of them. Actually, while
> > browser A might do one job correct, it might be needed to switch to
> > browser B, to get another job well done, while the user might stay at
> > just one website.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> I use 2, side by side. Chrome for "Web 2" type stuff. I normally leave
> Gmail open in it all day, and occasionally open Google Calendar or
> Contacts or Keep or Docs. It's also better for videoconferencing
> stuff.
> 
> This applies in Linux, on macOS and on Windows.
> 
> And Waterfox for everything else, which replace Firefox after Firefox
> Quantum, when 17/20 of my addons stopped working.
> 
> Many months later, now, I can sort of configure Firefox Quantum to
> look vaguely like I want, with a vertical tab bar (only) and some core
> extensions, but it's a poor shadow of what Firefox used to be able to
> do. So I don't use it any more. I switched to Waterfox.
> 
> I've tried Vivaldi and modern Opera and they're OK, but not good
> enough to lure me away from the 2-browser system I quite like.

I'm using more or less 3 browsers on Linux. Falkon (formerly QupZilla),
Firefox and Chrome. Several other were or are still installed, too, but
I only will mention some of them, Opera and Vivaldi and the Firefox
"forks" Pale Moon, IceCat and TorBrowser. On iOS I'm mainly using
Firefox and Safari. On the newer iOS device just Opera is installed, too
and on the older device Opera and Mercury are installed, too and a lot
of other browsers were installed on the old device.

On Tue, 2019-07-16 at 08:01 -0400, Little Girl wrote:
> Hey there,
> 
> I thought I'd take this off-list since it's a new topic.

By accident you sent it to the mailing list.
 
> > I'm using several browsers and dislike all of them. Actually, while
> > browser A might do one job correct, it might be needed to switch to
> > browser B, to get another job well done, while the user might stay at
> > just one website.
> 
> Just curious, but have you tried the Vivaldi browser? I don't know if
> it handles the history the way you like to because I have it clear my
> history every time I close it, leaving me no history to search, but
> it's worth a try.
> 
> They're a rather interesting team with a surprisingly configurable
> browser. My only reason for not using it exclusively is that it's not
> open source.

I liked the old Opera, not the new one and I also don't like Vivaldi
that much.

Vivaldi "stable" is always up to date on my machine, since around 4
years now and there always is an issue.

[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ grep vivaldi /var/log/pacman.log | grep -e \(1.0.219.50-2 -e \(2.6.1566.40-1
[2015-11-05 19:16] [ALPM] upgraded vivaldi (1.0.219.50-2 -> 1.0.303.52-1)
[2019-06-25 13:24] [ALPM] upgraded vivaldi (2.6.1566.40-1 -> 2.6.1566.44-1)
[rocketmouse at archlinux ~]$ vivaldi-stable 2>&1 | grep ERROR
[1951:1951:0716/143848.368967:ERROR:sandbox_linux.cc(368)] InitializeSandbox() called with multiple threads in process gpu-process.
[1919:2005:0716/143848.454730:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(619)] Failed to call method: org.freedesktop.Notifications.GetCapabilities: object_path= /org/freedesktop/Notifications: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files
[1951:1951:0716/143848.630872:ERROR:buffer_manager.cc(488)] [.DisplayCompositor]GL ERROR :GL_INVALID_OPERATION : glBufferData: <- error from previous GL command
[1919:1919:0716/143848.924735:ERROR:CONSOLE(0)] "[object Event]", source:  (0)
[1919:1919:0716/143849.889616:ERROR:CONSOLE(0)] "Unchecked runtime.lastError: The message port closed before a response was received.", source: chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/browser.html (0)
[1919:1935:0716/143854.793373:ERROR:browser_process_sub_thread.cc(221)] Waited 18 ms for network service

It's possible to use Vivaldi, but a sandbox error isn't confidence-
inspiring.

One of the browsers I never installed is Brave, it does block ads, just
to replace them with different ads.