Search for utility to identify source of WWW traffic

Ken D'Ambrosio ken at jots.org
Sun Apr 1 12:23:05 UTC 2018


On 2018-04-01 07:52, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

>    It's time intensive to put a whole list under moderation. Who should
>    moderate all the traffic? Consider to request, to set the moderation
>    bit on posts sent from you. If you would start to ask smart
>    questions, see http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html ,
>    we don't need to be harsh. Being harsh, because you are 
> unrespectful,
>    doesn't mean that we are unrespectful, too.

I've only stayed on the fringes of this discussion, but, really, this is 
an ongoing discussion that can be summed up as "Do the needs of the one 
outweigh the needs of the many?"  In Brett's opinion, the answer clearly 
is "Yes."  However, Brett is unwilling or unable to play fair as part of 
the team: he espouses conspiracy theories, ascribes malice on the part 
of others, and ignores advice offered in good faith.  At some point, I 
find it reasonable to wonder what, exactly, Brett is looking to get out 
of the list, other than a place to put forth his views to a captive 
audience?

And I have to say, were the list moderated, I think many of Brett's 
e-mails would be some of the first to go.  Certainly when throwing the 
Firefox team under the bus.  Are they -- or any developer -- perfect?  
Of course not.  But there's a pretty huge gap between "not perfect" and 
"looking to spy on you."  And then to ignore security updates because 
you're certain that you -- and nobody else -- has uncovered a conspiracy 
to reap your user data, etc., etc.?  Occam's Razor gave up about 10 
miles back.

Nutshell: Brett, if you don't like the software, stop using it.  
Microsoft and Apple will happily take your money; various BSDs have more 
of an eye in particular toward security.  Tails is Linux aimed almost 
entirely at privacy.  But attempting to right wrongs that only you see 
is -- rather by definition -- somewhat Quixotic, and unlikely to give 
you warm embrace in a community after you keep insisting that the 
emperor has no clothes, time after time.  (Apologies for the panoply of 
metaphors.)

My two cents, for whatever it's worth,

-Ken




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