Another rant

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Liam Proven schreef op 17-11-2017 13:17:

> Ubuntu is small and not yet in profit. It doesn't have many tech 
> writers.

Those articles weren't written by paid tech writers.

It's what you call "Community" (You know, what Ubuntu was trying to be).



> Yes. AIUI -- *not* an official statement -- there were, relatively
> speaking, few contributions, and the time required by staff to check
> and edit them, so it wasn't worth it,

Little bit contradictory of course if there are few contributions but 
still it costs too much time ;-).

> and they closed that channel
> off.  Great shame, but if it was costing more than it saved -- I have
> no idea, this was long before my time -- then it was a pragmatic
> response.

And now the entire wiki is useless and you don't go there for anything, 
you Google.


>> because today this information is not being added.
> 
> I've noted the same problem. Me, I blame fora, Stack Overflow, stuff 
> like that.

The wiki is not accessible.

More community-oriented distros that try to control what their users 
write less, don't suffer as much from the lack of input from that 
community.

> Good for you. They're still out there and still a problem. Last major
> nasty infection I had to clear out for someone was 4-5y ago, and I've
> had some of my own since then.

I am amazed.

>> I haven't run a virus scanner (persistently) since Windows 98.
> 
> Brave. Possibly mad.

I am curious how you get your viruses.

> Mine's the reverse. It's why I use it. But then I did tech support for
> Windows for ~25 years.

Then if you know all the ropes then how can you be frustrated.

Or was you only frustrated on behalf of other people.


> So there are 2 attitudes here, as I alluded to earlier with my comment
> about not fighting how Windows wants to be installed.
> 
> [1] Take it on their terms. Learn their ways. Learn the tools and
> accept that every few years the tools change.

Impossible if you can't keep up with that.

I remember someone who wrote how he needed to port a DOS game to 
Windows.

The DOS game had everything included into itself, its own scheduler etc.

It was one of the easiest ports that person ever did, because there were 
no outside dependencies.


> "I want to change my file manager!"

The only reason they want it changed is because it sucks currently...

> "OK, add this repo, install this, edit this config file..."
> "No no no! Stop all that techie stuff! I don't want to know. Just tell
> me what to click."

Hum hum.

> "You can't do it with a few clicks, but it's easy to do from the 
> shell..."
> "No. I don't do that stuff. This sucks. Linux sucks. I hate it. I'm
> going back to Windows!"



> Either you learn to do it right, or don't do it.

Wrong.

> Either learn the right tools to customise or deploy tools onto your
> system, or don't customise your system.

Tone deafness.

> Either learn what is the right way to add dozens of apps and settings
> to multiple machines, or don't add them.

Tone deafness.

For you everything is black and white at this point.

> You sound like you want customisability without putting the effort it.
> You can't have it both ways.

I am writing my own system Liam that I have spent at least 10 hours on.

I told you that this effort is healing to me, while the effort of having 
to learn the idiosynchratic ways of others is damaging.

Like.


Small example.


Python is easy.

Then you start doing GTK.



> Because "ordinary people" don't use it. They use what the computer
> came with, and when it breaks, they throw the computer away and get a
> new one.

There are also "ordinary people" who run

sfc /scannow

In Windows.

Which will check the integrity of all packages.

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