Can't boot notebook at all anymore

Xen list at xenhideout.nl
Sat Jun 24 09:37:41 UTC 2017


Pete Smout schreef op 24-06-2017 10:11:

> > Suggestions?
> > - Install Windows 10, you don't need a key to install it at first.
  And this will help - how? You will know whether it is a problem with 
the laptop.

> Duh?

> Surely telling someone to install Windows on a Ubuntu mailing list is 
> bad form.

Only if you care more about politics and dogmatic allegiances than 
practicalities.

You can spend a 1000 more hours troubleshooting an issue using Linux or 
you can use an outside viewpoint to quickly ascertain whether or not 
there is a hardware issue that would also effect other operating 
systems.

It's your time, not mine. Go ahead and waste endless hours.

> Sounds like a hardware prob in my limited experience try swapping back 
> to a spinning rust
> hdd. I have brought a brand new defective ssd once before and couldn't 
> accept that a new
> drive could be to blame! Many hours and plenty of foul language later 
> .......

The trouble with Linux is that there are a thousand variables that can 
be wrong.

> Just my thoughts, but Windows is never the answer!

With Windows you know three things:

- it is not going to be a driver issue
- it is not going to be a kernel/bootloader issue
- if anything is wrong, it is going to be a hardware issue.

Every time for me with Linux troubleshooting takes longer because I 
cannot depend on it not being the software.

The chances that the software is faulty at any given time is so high 
that I cannot exclude it from the list of possibilities when 
troubleshooting anything.

So particularly if you want to troubleshoot hardware (and not Grub, or 
the kernel, or the initramfs) use another operating system.

For all I care you use BeOS.

Same way I have had motherboards that had issues with a certain 
harddrive -- but only in Windows.

I have had a Windows system that had a real hard time making SSL/TLS 
connections. But only in Windows.

Because I was able to run Linux, I could know the difference.

You require an outside vantage point to know anything.

To limit yourself to not having any outside vantage points at all, means 
your ability to know what is wrong just goes down the drain.

And your troubleshooting time goes up almost infinitely.




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