How to tell which version of a application is running

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Karl Auer schreef op 16-04-2017 16:46:

> It's not an excuse; it's a description. Offering help that you KNOW is
> wrong or harmful is by definition not in good faith.

If you were to defend the actions behind the fact (and thereby ensuring 
they continue) even if you know now at least that they had bad 
consequences, is what I have an issue with.

We have a very good right to be angry with people doing harmful things 
without knowing but who keep insisting that they know better and thereby 
continue their harmful behaviours.

That is what I have an issue with, not the harmful behaviour in itself, 
but the people justifying it even after the fact saying there was 
nothing wrong with it because it was done in good faith ;-).

(And thereby ensuring that it never changes...)

Some of these people doing harmful things without knowing (it could be 
anyone) are very vocal and insisting and persistent with these things.

Some of them (it could be anyone) do great harm and then when called out 
for it they will shrug, say "I meant well" and continue on as if they 
never damaged anything ;-).