Title bar/menu problem on 14.04

[Jim Byrnes]

On 02/04/2016 09:57 AM, Colin Law wrote:
> On 4 February 2016 at 14:25, Jim Byrnes <jf_byrnes at comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 02/04/2016 02:08 AM, Colin Law wrote:
>>>
>>> On 3 Feb 2016 22:38, "Jim Byrnes" <jf_byrnes at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 02/03/2016 12:07 PM, Jim Byrnes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/03/2016 04:00 AM, Colin Law wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2 February 2016 at 23:23, Jim Byrnes <jf_byrnes at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     ...
>>>>>>> When I open up System Settings, Unsettings is the last icon on the
>>>>>>> right end
>>>>>>> of the Personel section.  Having said that I did install Unsettings
>>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>> ppa before I noticed it in System Settings. Your question made me
>>>>>>> wonder if
>>>>>>> my installing it put it there so I logged in to a guest account.
>>>>>>> Unsettings
>>>>>>> is in the System Settings on the guest account also.  I only have
>>>
>>> logged
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> into a guest account when asked to for trouble shooting like this so
>>>>>>> I don't
>>>>>>> have much experience with it. So is it possible that my installing
>>>>>>> unsettings when logged in is effecting the guest account also?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One would not expect it to appear in Settings until after it was
>>>>>> installed.  Once installed it is available to all users (as it the
>>>>>> case with other applications).  The reason I have been suggesting
>>>>>> checking it in the guest account is that the guest account will be
>>>>>> independent of any changes that you have made in your own account.
>>>>>> However I don't know whether it is possible that just installing
>>>>>> unsettings may have some effect on all users, or if settings may bleed
>>>>>> from one user to another.  What I suggest is that you try booting from
>>>>>> live image and see if you see the problem there, before changing
>>>>>> anything else.  If you do see it there then it is a bug or hardware
>>>>>> issue, if not then it is something to do with the setup of your
>>>>>> machine.  I have to say that I suspect that it is an unsettings issue,
>>>>>> but I am not going to install it to find out just in case it is not
>>>>>> easy to recover from any changes it may make.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't install unsettings, no use creating a potential problem for
>>>>> yourself.  When I get a little free time later today I will try that or
>>>>> maybe I will free up some space on my laptop and install 14.04 next Win
>>>>> 10 and Mint.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK. I ran the live CD on the desktop machine where I am seeing the
>>>
>>> problem.  The live cd acts exactly like my install of 14.04. If I go to
>>> settings (no Unsettings present) and change the menus to appear in the
>>> title bar when I mouse over a menu in Firefox the pointer changes to a
>>> hand
>>> and I must tap and release the mouse button very quickly to get the menus
>>> to drop down.
>>>
>>> Well that surprises me.  Which 14.04 image is it, so I can try myself? Do
>>> you have another machine? If so does that behave the same with that image?
>>>
>>> Colin
>>>
>>
>>
>> It was 14.04.1. I was surprised also as I thought it was the result of some
>> setting I changed. I need to make a small correction to what I said above. I
>> said "mouse over", but what I meant was put the pointer on a menu and push
>> the button.
>>
>> I have a laptop I can try it on but it has a touchpad, but I will plug my
>> track ball in and try it.
>
> Also try the regular mouse (I think you said you had one) and, also,
> does it happen if you use the click buttons on the touchpad (assuming
> it has them).
>
> Colin
>

Ok, ran the live cd on my laptop. To be clear when I say "normal click" 
I mean how I would click the mouse button if I was not really paying 
attention to what I was doing. As opposed to having to rapidly tap the 
mouse button to get the menu to drop down.

Firefox:
   touchpad - pad -- normal tap  -- no hand - menus drop down
   touchpad - bar -- normal tap  -- no hand - menus drop down
   trackball      -- normal tap  -- hand appears - no menu drop down
   trackball      -- rapid tap   -- no hand - menus drop down
   hp mouse       -- normal tap  -- hand appears - no menu drop down
   hp mouse       -- rapid tap   -- no hand - menus drop down

gEdit:
   With a normal tap the menus drop down as expected. If I press and 
hold the left button a hand appears. This is with all devices.

If I have the trackball or mouse plugged in the touchpad still works as 
I noted above.

So basically the touchpad works just like it did in 12.04, but my usb 
trackball and mouse behave differently in 14.04 than they did in 12.04.
I'm not sure what it means.  Does 14.04 have a problem with usb? If it 
did I would think more people would be seeing it.

Just a little note. I am in the process of installing 14.04 on my laptop 
and for a little while will have a plain vanilla install of 14.04 to 
test on with no need for the live cd.

Regards,  Jim