System requirements - Was: Out of Space

[J.Witvliet at mindef.nl]

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From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Oliver Grawert
Sent: woensdag 10 augustus 2016 13:50
To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: System requirements - Was: Out of Space

hi,
On Mi, 2016-08-10 at 13:18 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:39:48 +0200, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> >
> > well, i beg to disagree ...
> > https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/red/+build/10539905
> > (see the "Finished" line)
> >
> > it makes quite some difference if your system is powerful enough to
> > build something like firefox or libreoffice in 1-2h less when you
> > need to verify a bugfix locally and colleagues are possibly waiting
> > for you as well ;) ...
> enough for pro-audio, as 4 GiB of RAM are either, the frequency
> scaling governor just needs to be at a fixed frequency, usually
> "performance".
why ? do you not trust the kernel devs ? the ondemand governor will do the right thing if needed and not waste power when not needed ...

>
> For building large software, such as Firefox several times a day, I
> would buy a different machine in the first place, a CPU with more and
> faster cores, that wastes more Watt, but OTOH could use the "ondemand"
> frequency scaling governor for this task and I also would add more
> RAM.

you should regardless always use the ondemand governor unless you actually want to enforce "powersave" permanently ;)

>
> I could use the same mobo, just with another CPU and more RAM. The
> more powerful CPU and the RAM were available, when I bought the
> components for my computer years ago.+

within the lifecycle of a machine i definitely replace the CPU and add RAM indeed ...

>
> IOW there still is no need to get a new machine again and again for
> most tasks, there are just exceptional tasks that require for usage
> and development the latest and greatest, e.g. for simulations or
> video, while video anyway isn't a Linux domain. I'm talking about
> professional NLE, so please no examples about all the professional
> companies, that are using Linux for some aspects of film production.
>
> Unless you are not developing something like math intensive
> simulations or NLE professional video editing, you just need a
> suitable computer for this task, but it could be > 10 years old.

well, up to you ... if your employer bills ... say $400/h for you and you can explain to the customer that he has to pay this extra amount because your hardware is slow to build that firefox security fix for him thgat he needs today ... or if you can explain to your family why you spend 1h more working every day for saving a bit on the hardware .... sure ... totally your choice :)

If it is only making packages for Debian/Ubuntu....
You can always build packages on the online-build-system. No need for building packages locally anymore
A huge build farm for all kinds of distro's and architectures. And it is free, as in free-lunch / free-beer ;-)

Nowadays you only need heavy equipment  for local-number crunching (NLE, mining, etc)



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