Creating a Windows VM Inside Ubuntu

P. Echols p.echo926 at
Tue Nov 3 20:42:40 UTC 2015

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Liam Proven <lproven at> wrote:

> On 2 November 2015 at 12:35, Amichai Rotman <amichai at> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am a bit stumped:
> >
> > A friend of mine just graduated from Graphics Design school. Of course,
> all
> > design schools teach Adobe products only (Photosop, InDesing, etc.) - god
> > forbid any Open Source alternatives...
> >
> > Putting *that* discussion aside....
> >
> > A few days ago he came to me and said "I am sick of this POS OS"
> (referring
> > to Windows  8.1 installed on his super charged Asus laptop). "i'd like
> you
> > to install Ubuntu on my laptop, but I need to be able to use Adobe and
> my PC
> > games on it."
> >
> > I tried to install his (legal) Adobe Photoshop CC 2014 by following a
> > tutorial, but all the menus were mangled and distorted and I was afraid
> he
> > will encounter problems in the future.
> >
> > So I had an idea of installing his Windows as a Headless VM so he can
> run it
> > only when he needs to work on Adobe or play the games that cannot be
> > installed on Ubuntu. I need your advice:
> >
> > How to do it as painless as possible?
> > Should I use KVM or Virtualbox?
> If he wants to change OS, realistically, he has to change apps.
> Running apps from one OS under another will never be a good
> experience. It will always be inferior to an all-native setup, and
> therefore it will give a bad experience of Ubuntu.
> If you use WINE, you get at best partial functionality and partial
> integration with the host OS.
> If you use a VM, you still are running the problematic OS. He still
> needs to maintain it, patch and update it, protect it with
> antimalware, etc.
> I'd suggest an upgrade to Win10, or a downgrade to Win7.
> If he is wedded to Adobe apps, then he needs to try a Mac.
> Sorry, but you were specific, and what you ask will never yield a happy
> ending.
Pretty much true, but . . .

Much of the crap in Win boxes is because of the junk that accumulates that
does not play nicely together.  Particularly browser plugins, etc.

In my experience, I have a couple of windows apps that I need for work. I
found alterntives that I could use, but not the folks I work with.  So I'm
stuck.  I started with a clean install of Win 7 in a VirtualBox guest.  The
only things I installed on that VM are the two proprietary apps and a virus
checker.  For all I used the custom install option and declined the offer
to install "other useful programs."

Everything else I do is done in my ubuntu desktop. In those circumstances,
Windows does not have the opportunity to build up a bunch of cruft, so it
continues to work well.

If I were using something like the Adobe suite, I think I'd want to assign
lots of memory and make sure the host was at least as competent as a
current generation i5.  My current box is an i7 with 16GB of memory.  I
only give the VM 4, ample for what I'm doing. OP should consider playing
with how much and how well it works.

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