Bob Holtzman holtzm at
Mon Jun 9 06:24:21 UTC 2014

On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 11:57:06PM -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-06-07 at 16:53 -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > Actually, you can accomplish most, if not all, of what you need to do
> > with sudo, but it is, at times, a PITA.

You will notice that I said "at times".

> Perhaps you're comparing sudo to running as root all the time so you
> never need to use any tools to get root access.  If you really want to
> do such a terribly silly thing, you can give root a password with a
> simple one-time command and do whatever you like afterwards.  If you're
> too much of a newbie to know how to do this, then you're too much of a
> newbie to run as root on your system full-time.

I guess I am pretty much of a newbie. I've only been admistering my
boxen and my local network for 10 yrs or so. If something makes you
think that I run as root all, or even the majority of the time, guess

The times sudo is a PITA is when I need to execute a number of commands
perhaps 5-10 min apart. Typing my 12 character p/w every time is a major
PITA and breaks the work flow and my train of thought. Yeah, I know
about sudo su ( think that's the command) but I don't use Ubuntu very
much and often forget. 

> Ubuntu has this exactly right and should be applauded for taking this
> completely sensible step.

Your opinion.

Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword
or tackle Mt Everest in snow, but the bravest 
of all owns a '34 Ford and tries for 6000 in low.
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