How to install windows 7 next to ubuntu (William Scott Lockwood III)

Tue Dec 23 03:57:33 UTC 2014

I don't have access to google or internet on my campus.  Here internet is
expensive, so I only have access to the school's email.

Hi William Scott Lockwood III, you mentioned that i need a backup of my
boot sector, how can I back up my boot sector.  Also is it possible to
have grub control the boot loader instead of the windows default.  I was
thinking I just have to make grub the default loader by telling it where
the Windows partition would be installed.  Also if this is possible can I
get the commands to do it, because I don't have access to internet and
don't have a chance to just search google.

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>    4. Re: How to install windows 7 next to ubuntu
>       (William Scott Lockwood III)
>    5. Re: New ntp install from tarball (C de-Avillez)
>    6. Re: New ntp install from tarball (Gene Heskett)
>    7. Re: New ntp install from tarball (Nils Kassube)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 06:36:12 -0600
> From: Chris <cpollock at embarqmail.com>
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> On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 10:13 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
>> On 21 December 2014 at 15:07, Chris <cpollock at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>> > I was able to
>> > reboot by CTRL>ALT>F1 login and run 'sudo reboot'.
>>
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>> Once you've done Ctrl+Alt+F-key, then just press Ctrl-Alt-Del. No need
>> to login or anything.
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> Thanks Liam, did now know that. So far it's not been necessary while
> running the newer kernel.
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> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 07:48:58 -0800
> From: Randy <nnn0kpo at gmail.com>
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> On 12/21/2014 10:12 PM, nikolaigauntiet at estelacm.sld.cu wrote:
>> Hi, I need to install windows 7 next to ubuntu but the problem is that i
>> already have ubuntu installed and don't want to have to erase my ubuntu
>> and install windows then go back and install ubuntu in order to control
>> grub.  How can i install it without having to erase my ubuntu partition.
>>
>>
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> I used virtualbox to have windows 7 and I'm happy with it.
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> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:17:18 -0800
> From: "Kevin O'Gorman" <kogorman at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: How to install windows 7 next to ubuntu
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> You don't have to erase it.  However, it is possible, even likely, that
> Windows will mess with it in one way or another.  The point is that it is
> not safe to do this without a good backup anyway.
> Some versions of Windows automatically and unconditionally reformat and
> occupy the entire hard drive.  I think OEM versions do this.
>
> It is also certain that Windows will set up its own boot loader.  There's
> no avoiding that.  You're going to have to reinstall grub.
>
> In the end, I think you're going to either install Windows in a virtual
> machine, or else install Windows and then reinstall Ubuntu.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 10:12 PM, <nikolaigauntiet at estelacm.sld.cu> wrote:
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>> Hi, I need to install windows 7 next to ubuntu but the problem is that i
>> already have ubuntu installed and don't want to have to erase my ubuntu
>> and install windows then go back and install ubuntu in order to control
>> grub.  How can i install it without having to erase my ubuntu partition.
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:24:04 -0600
> From: William Scott Lockwood III <scott at guppylog.com>
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> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Kevin O'Gorman <kogorman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> Some versions of Windows automatically and unconditionally reformat and
>> occupy the entire hard drive
>
>
> This hasn't been true for many, many years at this point.
>
> Nor does he have to reinstall grub, if he has a backup of his boot sector.
>
> It is entirely possible to boot Ubuntu, or any other OS from the Windows
> boot loader.
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> Google is your friend.
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> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:50:26 -0600
> From: C de-Avillez <hggdh2 at ubuntu.com>
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> Subject: Re: New ntp install from tarball
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> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday 21 December 2014 11:58:17 Tom H did opine
>> And Gene did reply:
>>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I just installed ntp-4.2.8 in the default /usr/local prefix, and
>>> > adjusted the stuff in /etc/init.d/ntp, and in /etc/defaults/ntp, and
>>> > its working, but neither I nor my watch script seem to be able to
>>> > locate a "drift" or "ntp.drift" file that the default 10.04.4 LTS
>>> > version kept in the /var/lib/ntp subdir.
>>>
>>> Check "{,/usr/local}/etc/ntp.drift".
>>
>
> There are two ways of specifying the drift file:
>
> * the driftfile keyword in the NTP configuration;
> * the "-f <driftfile>" parameter to the NTP daemon, where <driftfile>
> is the full path to the drift file desired location.
>
> Drift files should be created automagically if they do not exist --
> but it takes some time for the file to be created. When NTPd starts
> (and absent a driftfile) it will start monitoring the time variances
> more intensively. Once it decides it has enough data about the drift,
> it will write a driftfile to the location specified in either of the
> two locations above, and slow down drift calculations. Usually this
> process takes from many minutes to one hour or so.
>
> So... check your drift file location; verify it is owned by the userid
> running the daemon; wait a few hours.
>
> This should be it.
>
> Cheers,
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> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 12:52:23 -0500
> From: Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: New ntp install from tarball
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> On Monday 22 December 2014 11:50:26 C de-Avillez did opine
> And Gene did reply:
>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
>> > On Sunday 21 December 2014 11:58:17 Tom H did opine
>> >
>> > And Gene did reply:
>> >> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com>
> wrote:
>> >> > I just installed ntp-4.2.8 in the default /usr/local prefix, and
>> >> > adjusted the stuff in /etc/init.d/ntp, and in /etc/defaults/ntp,
>> >> > and its working, but neither I nor my watch script seem to be
>> >> > able to locate a "drift" or "ntp.drift" file that the default
>> >> > 10.04.4 LTS version kept in the /var/lib/ntp subdir.
>> >>
>> >> Check "{,/usr/local}/etc/ntp.drift".
>>
>> There are two ways of specifying the drift file:
>>
>> * the driftfile keyword in the NTP configuration;
>> * the "-f <driftfile>" parameter to the NTP daemon, where <driftfile>
>> is the full path to the drift file desired location.
>>
> I have done this, in /etc/default/ntp.
>
>> Drift files should be created automagically if they do not exist --
>> but it takes some time for the file to be created. When NTPd starts
>> (and absent a driftfile) it will start monitoring the time variances
>> more intensively. Once it decides it has enough data about the drift,
>> it will write a driftfile to the location specified in either of the
>> two locations above, and slow down drift calculations. Usually this
>> process takes from many minutes to one hour or so.
>>
>> So... check your drift file location; verify it is owned by the userid
>> running the daemon; wait a few hours.
>>
>> This should be it.
>
> I created, by touching, both of the potential filenames at the path
> specified in /etc/default/ntp, but discovered just now that I sill own
> them, so chowned them to ntp:ntp just now.  Likewise the parent "ntp"
> directory in /usr/local/lib.
>
> Now we wait...
>
> Thanks, C de-Avillez, this is stuff that simply is not important enough to
> make the man page.  And yet its quite important to verifying that it is
> indeed working.
>
> Cheers & Have a merry Christmas, Gene Heskett
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 19:03:32 +0100
> From: Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: New ntp install from tarball
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> Gene Heskett wrote:
>> Now we wait...
>
> If you don't want to wait, you can simply install the ntp update for
> 10.04: <http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2449-1/>
> Then the files are at the old well-known locations.
>
>
> Nils
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