When did Ubuntu evovle?
lproven at gmail.com
Thu Oct 10 22:53:57 UTC 2013
On 10 October 2013 23:26, Colin Watson <cjwatson at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> There was probably some element of early inspiration, and I believe Mark
> had a discussion with Bruce at some point not long before founding
> Canonical. It would be true to say that UserLinux and Ubuntu had
> somewhat similar goals at the highest level.
Well, yes, there did seem to be a lot in common.
> Without wishing to denigrate Bruce's work, though, I think it's a bit
> strong to describe UserLinux as Ubuntu's inspiration as if it were the
> main one. UserLinux didn't really come up all that much in the early
> discussions about what was to become Ubuntu (I have an almost complete
> archive of our original primary internal mailing list, high-traffic for
> quite a long time, which contains ten messages *total* mentioning
> UserLinux). I suppose this was mainly because the actual amount of code
> they were emitting was fairly limited; comments on
> http://lwn.net/Articles/151642/ make similar points. We knew they were
> out there, but we were trying to do things in a rather different way and
> so they didn't really register a great deal in practice.
I didn't know that -- thanks for the information.
> Debian itself was a much deeper inspiration, really, along with the
> release management practices of GNOME and a number of the revision
> control ideas that were floating around in the Arch project, and I
> expect Mark's previous commercial experience as well. I can't speak for
> Mark, but for those of us who were brought in early from Debian - at
> least a plurality of the early hires - I think I can safely generalise
> that our main motivation was that we'd been working on Debian for a
> while and shared various frustrations with the way the project operated
> at the time, along with a great excitement at the chance to bring it to
> a much wider audience.
> Personally, if I had to pick a Debian-based distribution to cite as an
> inspiration, I'd have gone for Progeny. They produced a bunch of
> interesting technology and funded a lot of work on important parts of
> Debian while they were active, things that now seem just part of the
> infrastructure we expect to be there. Their mention in
> http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/all_this_for_a_progress_bar/ comes to mind,
> for example, along with an awful lot of work on X, and I'm sure a great
> deal else. Looking back I see quite a few similarities with Ubuntu.
Absolutely fascinating -- many thanks for that. Lots more than I'd
ever known before.
As an outsider with nothing to go on except a tiny handful of
forwarded mailing-list messages, I guess I jumped to a conclusion: a
Debian-based GNOME-based desktop distro, single-CD, including all the
main desktop/productivity apps and a simple installer with no
tricky-for-newbies software choices.
I thought it was a great idea then and I still do.
Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile
Email: lproven at cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven
MSN: lproven at hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven
Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884
More information about the ubuntu-users