dual booting Ubuntu 13.04 and Windows 7

[Christine Gipson]

Look guys, I am not into the tech BS, just need to know how to get the
cyberstalker off my machine and get some privacy. He is a real menace.

sent from my LG SPECTRUM
On May 28, 2013 10:24 AM, "Liam Proven" <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 28 May 2013 14:22, Gerhard Magnus <magnus at agora.rdrop.com> wrote:
> > On 05/28/2013 05:22 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> >>
> >> On 28 May 2013 06:11, Basil Chupin <blchupin at iinet.net.au> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As the OP states above:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "I bought a new box with the Intel DB75EN motherboard that uses the
> >>> UEFI standard and DPT partitioning for the hard drives.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah, that is the problem. There is no such thing as DPT that I know of.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> > Sorry for the typo -- it's GPT, not DPT.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
>
> I thought probably so, but with things like this, you really do have
> to be super-careful.
>
> IIRC, "DPT" was a maker of caching hard disk controllers way back when.
>
> > When it comes to booting, things aren't quite as simple as they used to
> be.
> >
> > My original post on this matter probably included too much fdisk and
> gparted
> > data and was ignored -- so I simplified the story slightly before posting
> > again. Another mistake, as a detail I left out turned out to be
> important.
>
> That is unfortunate.
>
> > The computer has TWO hard drives: the primary (1TB) and a solid state
> > secondary (180GB).
>
> OK, first, let me stop you there. These are SATA drives, I presume? (I
> don't think there ever were EIDE drives as big as 1TB, nor SSDs.)
>
> The terms "primary" and "secondary" don't really apply to SATA. This
> is not nit-picking - I think that this is/was part of your problem.
>
> With SATA, all drives are standalone. Sometimes, in the firmware, you
> can set a boot order and tell the firmware to look at a particular
> drive first, or even several drives in a sequence. The ports on the
> motherboard are usually numbered, e.g. 1/2/3/4. Sometimes in the
> firmware you can tell it that the boot sequence should be, say:
>
> [1] optical drive
> [2] SATA 3
> [3] SATA 1
> [4] USB
>
> If you have/had your 1TB spinning disk on port #1 and the SSD on port
> #2, and the firmware was set to boot from #1, then when you put GRUB
> on disk #2, it would be ignored. I am taking an educated guess that
> this is what happened. When you put GRUB on the SSD, you should also
> have changed your firmware boot order to look at #2 before #1. If you
> cannot do this, then you should have changed the drive connections so
> that the SSD was on #1 and the HD on #2.
>
> > I had the primary partitioned as 250GB and 750GB at the
> > shop and Windows 7 installed on the 250GB partition. My plan for dual
> > booting with Ubuntu 13.04 was to put "/" on the much faster secondary
> drive
> > and "/home" on the 250GB partition of the primary. This made it
> necessary to
> > use the "Something else" option on the installation menu. I put the boot
> > loader on /dev/sda (the old procedure for dual booting.)
> >
> > If I'd used either of the other two options -- "erase disk and install
> > Ubuntu" or "install Ubuntu alongside Windows" I think my initial attempt
> at
> > installing would have worked.
>
> Possibly!  I never like to trust the automatic options myself - I
> prefer to trust my own decision-making.
>
> > I was finally successful after
> > this:
> >
> > (1) Use a Live CD to install boot-repair and repair the MBR on the
> primary
>
> This is one of the problems I am having understanding what is going
> on. In theory, a 1TB drive formatted with GPT does not /have/ an MBR.
> GPT is an alternative to MBR.
>
> If perhaps you mean "boot sector" or something like that, I am sorry
> to quibble, but it is important to say so!
>
> > (2) Install Xubuntu 12.04 (LTS) on the primary using the "erase disk and
> > install" option (which, as I mentioned, can handle the new GPT MBR
> > configuration in a way that is "transparent to the user")
>
> Again, it is GPT /or/ MBR, as I understand it, not both.
>
>
> > (3) Use the Live CD and gparted to shrink the Xubuntu partition on the
> > primary down to 20GB and partition the remainder as ext4
> > (4) Install Ubuntu 13.04 with "/" on the secondary drive, "/home" on the
> > 980GB partition of the primary, and the bootloader on the secondary
> > (/dev/sdb).
> >
> > So I have Ubuntu 13.04 up and running (it's extremely fast) and an
> Xubuntu
> > to experiment with.
>
> I am glad to hear it.
>
> > Maybe I can get Windows 7 to work if I install it on another hard drive
> and
> > make sure the installation doesn't go anywhere near the primary drive
> that
> > has Ubuntu on it! Or I may try one of Liam's suggestions as I really
> don't
> > like Microsoft.
>
> Re-order the drives, make the SSD #1 - i.e. /dev/sda - and the HD #2 -
> i.e. /dev/sdb. Check that the firmware boots from #1. Put the
> bootloader on sda. Leave Windows on drive #2. Having the bootloader
> and / on sda and Windows and /home on sdb should be fine.
>
>
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