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William Scott Lockwood III scott at
Mon Apr 8 19:41:16 UTC 2013

On Apr 8, 2013 2:35 PM, "Liam Proven" <lproven at> wrote:
> On 8 April 2013 20:28, William Scott Lockwood III <vladinator at>
> > On Apr 8, 2013 2:25 PM, "Liam Proven" <lproven at> wrote:
> >> On 8 April 2013 20:13, James Freer < at> wrote:
> >> > Liam thanks - where did you find out about ctrl-A
> >> Sorry, I omitted to answer your actual question.
> >> It is a standard CUA keystroke to select all. Works in most apps on
> >> most OSs. Selecting text to quote expands the "[...]" thing, so I
> >> stumbled across it by trial and error.
> >
> > Part of the old LIM standard from the 80's if memory serves. LIM was the
> > first attempt I know of to get OS's and applications on the same page
> > various things. That way, you could know a common set of keys and expect
> > them to work the same from application to application. Things like F1
> > being 'help' and the like.
> Sir is muddling Sir's TLAs up, I fear.
> LIM was the spec for Expanded RAM on MS-DOS:
> CUA - Common User Access - is part of the IBM SAA standard for look &
> feel in DOS (and Windows, OS/2, Mac etc.) apps:
> I believe Ctrl-A was part of CUA, but then, I think a fair few CUA
> keystrokes were actually lifted from Mac OS.
> But you're right - it does date back to the DOS era of the 1980s.
> (Which means it is mostly forgotten today. Here in the UK, former
> Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher just died. She was a major figure in
> the 1980s - the UK's first female PM, the woman that got the UK into
> the war with Argentina, broke up the unions, destroyed the UK's heavy
> manufacturing industry & whose limitations on the welfare state forced
> millions into poverty. And yet, Twitter & Facebook are full of
> 20-somethings who don't know who she was...
> )
> Disclaimer: I wrote most of those Wikipedia articles. :¬)


Could be. I was thinking of the Lotus Intel Microsoft standard. I could
have sworn it was called LIM. But, TLA's are commonly overloaded in any
case, each one has multiple meanings at this point. All I have handy is the
phone, so I can't really look it up. CUA, I'll have to remember that. :)

Thanks, Liam.

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