blchupin at iinet.net.au
Tue Apr 2 10:15:26 UTC 2013
On 02/04/13 20:05, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2013-04-02 19:38 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:
>> Felix Miata wrote:
>>> On 2013-04-01 23:39 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:
>>>> I went thru a period of "hell" recently when trying to figure out
>>>> versus grub (legacy) but finally "I can see clearly now, the rain is
>>>> gone." :-) . Grub2 is a piece of cake to use
>>> Not if Fedora 18 is involved with a multiboot system on which you wish
>>> each installed OS's Grub confined to it's own / partition. On Fedora
>>> 18, your choices at installation time are install Grub to MBR, or
>>> install no boot loader at all.
>> Which is exactly what I stated in my post: Fedora writes its boot info
>> in the MBR just like Windows does.
>> But there is little trouble in getting out this hassle created by Fedora
>> (or even Windows for that matter).
> To this sufficiently enlightened this is true. Lacking sufficient
> enlightenment it can be rather vexing, as indicated by the mass of
> "can no longer boot XXX" pleas for help scattered about, particularly
> since Grub2 started putting all but default in a submenu. Neither Grub
> Legacy nor Grub2 are "piece of cake" before sufficient experience with
> their use and quirks, aka getting through "period of hell", is acquired.
Once one grasps the fundamentals and has no requirement to do exotic
things with either (and there is no need for any exotics in any case)
using grub2 becomes easier than falling off a log.
The "hell" in my post came about because of some people arguing how
difficult grub2 was which confused the issue no end because when one
read something re grub2 the mind automatically fell into the trap of
reading something very sinister into what was written on how to use
grub2. Add to this the fact that something like Ubuntu has "gone against
the grain" and retained the term "grub" but went with the grub2 way in
the use of control/configuration files and wading thru the mumbo-jumob
of reading instructions on how to configure and use grub2 became "hell"
- when, in fact, grub2 is really a piece of cake to use.
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