Restoring the old gnome desktop

[NoOp]

On 05/11/2012 11:15 PM, Lucio M Nicolosi wrote:
> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 1:08 AM, NoOp <glgxg at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On 05/09/2012 04:23 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
>>> On 3 May 2012 05:24, Art Edwards <edwardsa at icantbelieveimdoingthis.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> I'm sure this is very honestly given advice that might be very helpful,
>>>> but isn't it a little ironic that, for such an intuitive environment,
>>>> Unity needs a wallpaper with hints?
>>>
>>> No, not at all. See my reply to Albert Wagner.
>>>
>>> Unity has a lot more keystrokes enabled by default than did GNOME 2,
>>
>> Indeed it does. in fact Ubuntu 12.04 *requires* that you have two
>> working hands, digits, and arms in order to use all of these fine
>> 'keystrokes' and perform the same function that could be performed by a
>> person with one hand and a mouse. Here's an example:
>>
>>  On GNOME2/Natty & below to modify/add a user to a group all you needed
>> to do was click System|Administration|Users and Groups|Manage
>> Groups|click on the group you want & select 'Edit'|click the user you
>> want to add & click 'OK' - done. Try the same with 12.04...
>>
>> Nevermind, you'll end up doing it directly from the terminal:
>> <http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/quickly-add-users-to-groups-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/>
>> Now I suppose that you *might* be able to do that with a single hand,
>> but I wouldn't like to try.
>>
>> Granted the mouse operation does take quite a few clicks, but at least
>> you can do it with one hand.
> 
> A bit cumbersome, but can be done:
> 
> First, of course, you have to install gnome-system-tools because Unity

Ah, well now why didn't I think of that...

> doesn't offer a single GUI app to manage groups. (Or does it?).
> Then you open dash, click "Search App"  icon below, 

Of course one would need to know which is the 'Search App' icon...
(for the GNOME2 & other ill informed: it is the one to the right of the
little house on the prairie box - the one that is supposed to look like
a ruler, crayon, and candle?)

then "Filter
> Results", 

Fileter results

then "System".

On the systems that only run Unity 2D (the bulk of which have older, but
perfectly working nVidia Quadro graphic cards in them), clicking on
'System' does nothing... well nothing other than "Sorry, there is
nothing that matches your search".
  The 2D's running in VMware (on the same system) _sometimes_ show U&G,
but not reliably.

In my system I get six matches, one of then
> Gnome's old and reliable "Users and Groups".
> 
> Extremely intuitive if you know exactly what to look for and how...

  On the one that runs Unity 3D does indeed show 'Users and Groups'.
Unless of you click 'Office' and then click on 'System' again. I that
case it just continues to show the office applications & you need to
click 'All' again, then 'System'. Then other times it actually works...
How is that intuitive ((chiefly of computer software) Easy to use and
understand.)?

No. You need an internet connection & good folks like you to tell a user
how to do the simplest of tasks from the GNOME2 desktop (by adding a
non-standard utility from the 'Universe' respository to start). IMO it's
pretty pathetic that users now have to fumble around wasting time
finding workarounds & installing Universe packages and/or plugins,
simply to accomplish a previous basic, simple, task.

Thanks Lucio & as always I appreciate your assistance.

Gary