what's the general outline for a clean install from the minimal CD to a graphical DE? sudo aptitude -y install xserver-xorg-core xinit menu menu-xdg jwm fluxbox alsa-utils mrxvt-mini gdebi-core synaptic logrotate http://knol.google.com/k/ubuntu-minimal-desktop-installation-guide# and then startx should do it, even for 12.04? thanks, Thufir