Grub not installing when Xubuntu installs

[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:38:31 -0500
Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com> wrote:

I fixed your top-posting for you.  You /do/ know that top posting is
against the mailing lists rules, don't you?  

See the normal and natural place for my reply.
> 
> On Jun 13, 2012, at 6:48 PM, "Cybe R. Wizard"
> <cyber_wizard at mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:52:20 +0000
> > Ryan Gauger <rtgkid at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> The boot loader should be installed on the same HD as the OS.
> > 
> > Absolute tripe.  Where /do/ you come up with these bits of
> > ridiculous disinformation?  You aren't doing your meager reputation
> > here any good at all by passing on these things about which you
> > know nothing.
> > 
> > Here, some /real/ information from
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB>:
> > 
> > "A key feature of GRUB is that it can be installed without being
> > attached to an operating system. However, it needs a copy of a Linux
> > image for such an installation. Working as a stand alone system it
> > is virtually a mini system in its own right and able to boot all the
> > installed major operating systems by chain loading, as described
> > above.
> > 
> > Unlike Linux Loader (LILO), there is no need to reinstall GRUB to
> > the MBR or a partition after changes to the configuration file.
> > 
> > In Linux, the "grub-install" command is used to install stage1 to
> > either the MBR or a partition. GRUB's configuration file, stage2
> > (usually), and other files must be in a usable partition. If these
> > files or the partition become unavailable, stage1 will drop the
> > user to the command line interface.
> > 
> > The name and disk location of the GRUB configuration file varies
> > from system to system. For example, in openSUSE and (for GRUB
> > legacy) in Debian GNU/Linux the file is stored
> > in /boot/grub/menu.lst while Fedora, Gentoo Linux, and (for GRUB 2)
> > Debian use /boot/grub/grub.conf or ../grub.cfg. Fedora also
> > provides a symbolic link from /etc/grub.conf
> > to /boot/grub/grub.conf for FHS compatibility reasons.
> > 
> > GRUB can be installed on removable media, such as an optical drive
> > (BIOS access, and El Torito), floppy disk or USB flash drive, in
> > order to bring up a system that may not have or cannot boot from a
> > hard disk."

> That's just it - it does not need to be attached to the operating
> system, I said it needs to be installed on the same HD as the OS, not
> attached to it.

Yes, you did say (well, type) that, and that statement is completely
incorrect in addition to being a disservice to the OP.

> While it can be installed on another disk, I do not
> recommend it,

But your recommendation was neither asked nor needed as it is based on
an incorrect assumption and flies in the face of the experience of many,
many people who have had very good luck with GRUB installations in
places other than, "the same HD as the OS."   

Why on Earth would you ever think that anyone would rather have your
recommendation than facts?

> because as soon as you remove the disk, your computer
> is in-bootable until the disk is back. I understand that the person
> who originally asked this question is a beginner with Linux, do I was
> trying to make it easy for him.

Easy?  Giving bad info isn't a way to educate new folks, nor is assuming
that they aren't able to 'handle the truth'.  It certainly isn't easy
on the OP or anybody.    ...except maybe you as you don't actually need
to know anything to spout conjecture and/or opinion.

I'd like to suggest that you need to step back and examine your own
motives in being here giving out false information.  Nothing and no one
is helped by that, not even your own ego, because you then have to deal
with people who will call you on your falsehoods and mistakes.

...people such as

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
"Faith:  not *wanting* to know what is true."
		Friedrich Nietzsche