MATE Desktop and a little thought...

[Ryan Gauger]

On Jul 20, 2012, at 2:36 PM, "Daevid Vincent" <daevid at daevid.com> wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ubuntu-users-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-users-
>> bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Juan R. de Silva
>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 12:02 PM
>> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Re: MATE Desktop
>> 
>> On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 19:24:01 +0100, Graham Todd wrote:
>> 
>>> Are there any plans to offer an option for the MATE desktop at the
>>> system install in future versions of Ubuntu?
>>> 
>>> Being very like the Gnome 2 Desktop, MATE offers people who cannot get
>>> on with the Unity shell and people who just would like to try the MATE
>>> desktop the option to do so, without messing about with the official
>>> GNOME 3 Desktop.
>> 
>> Are you joking? Are you asking if Canonical is going to shoot in its own
>> foot? :-)
> 
> It could be argued that Canonical already DID shoot its own foot with this
> Unity debacle. ;-)
> 
> That has been a thorn since it's introduction and what I attribute to the
> mass exodus away from Ubuntu -- which WAS the dominant distro (even
> trouncing on RedHat/Fedora long ago to take the crown).
> 
> http://distrowatch.com/
> 
> Rank    Distribution    H.P.D*
> 1    Mint        3859<
> 2    Ubuntu    2201=
> 3    Mageia    1774>
> 4    Fedora    1697<
> 5    Debian    1361<
> 6    openSUSE    1349=
> 7    Arch        1154>
> 8    CentOS    988>
> 9    Puppy        853=
> 10    PCLinuxOS    784>
> 
> Mint seems to have a significant lead over Ubuntu and includes MATE
> http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php
> 
> I've not used Mint, but hear great things. Also isn't it based upon Ubuntu,
> so wouldn't it follow that the MATE packages should work on an Ubuntu system
> too?
> 
> 
> OT: I find these types of phenomena very interesting. I mean, how some
> company/product/service/even distro can be so massive and seem that they
> will never falter and yet somehow manage to royally fsck something up so
> badly that they collapse. Gentoo, SUSE, and Solaris, come to mind on a
> distro scale. On larger scales, Altavista was huge at one time, now where
> are they? Yahoo was the king of search and absolutely crushed by Google
> search. Digg was THE news site and sold for millions and now it was just
> sold off for a pathetic $500k. Friendster was the hot new social network
> that stole the title from Six Degrees (yeah, remember that?) and then
> Myspace came along and drank their milkshake. Now they too are just a sad
> sad shell of what it was, and Facebook owns that domain by a landslide.
> Google+ will ultimately fail. I'm not saying G+ is good or bad, I'm just
> stating a fact. It will fail, and that in itself is interesting as it's one
> of the first times that something with such potential to take the top spot
> is so doomed. Massive amounts of money and smarts, polish and integration
> with so much googleness, and yet it just won't take hold. UNLESS Facebook
> REALLY screws the pooch. It seems FB gets away with a LOT of sketchy stuff
> the user's hate, but yet they are really the monopoly and so they (for now)
> can do what they want. But mark my words, there will be another contender to
> come out of nowhere. Some small startup will swoop in and be the hot new
> social network and we'll be saying, "remember facebook and google+"?
> Anyways, end of my stream of thought...
> 
> 
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Linux Mint is not the most-widely used Linux distro. Ubuntu still is. That list is only showing how many hits that page got for each distro, not how much that distro is being used.

---Ryan