ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 95, Issue 74

Eddie O'Connor eoconnor25 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 15 16:17:33 UTC 2012


Thank you SO much Pongo A Pan! I did install that and it worked like a
CHARM! Finally I'm free from having to reboot my machine all the darned
time! Now....I have to figure out a way to train my sister-in-law on how to
go about using her OWN laptop (which has Linux Mint on it!) I don't think
there's a script, or ap for THAT!...LoL! Hope you all have a great day!


EGO II

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>    1. Re: Touchpad Terror.... (Pongo A. Pan)
>    2. Re: how install win w/o wiping the disk (Liam Proven)
>    3. for i in {2..6}; do mv disc$i/* disc1; rm -rf disc$i; done -
>       Need      help making this work (Nathaniel Homier)
>    4. Re: how install win w/o wiping the disk (G. )
>    5.  (G. )
>    6. Re: Thunderbird does not ask for password when sending second
>       mail !!! (Basil Chupin)
>    7. Re: Thunderbird does not ask for password when sending second
>       mail !!! (Basil Chupin)
>    8. Re: for i in {2..6}; do mv disc$i/* disc1; rm -rf disc$i;
>       done - Need help making this work (Nils Kassube)
>    9. Re: Thunderbird does not ask for password when sending second
>       mail !!! (Basil Chupin)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Pongo A. Pan" <pongo_pan at fastmail.us>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Cc:
> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:36:58 -0700
> Subject: Re: Touchpad Terror....
> On Sat, 2012-07-14 at 19:02 -0400, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
> > I am going crazy with a Sony Viao laptop that is having trouble with
> > its touchpad, after installing Ubuntu 11.04 and upgrading to 12...the
> > touchpad has been sporadically "stopping". In that I cannot
> > right-click, left-click, or just CLICK period! Is there some kind fo
> > "patch" for this? I haven't realy had time to search for a "cure" for
> > this, as I have just started a new job and am short on time. If
> > ANYONE...ANYWHERE can point me in the right direction I would greatly
> > appreciate it!
> >
> >
>
> Have you installed gpointing-device-settings (in the repositories for
> Precise at least)?  This lets you control lots of things for the most
> common types of touchpad.  I mostly use it to turn the darn thing
> completely off and use a $17 wireless usb mini-mouse instead, but if
> you're a glutton for punishment or like to tap to click it should help.
> I found it with synaptic but the software center should know about it.
>
>
> --
> pongo pan
> Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:36:22 -0700
> Diogenes up 57 min, 0 users, load average: 0.66, 0.84, 0.91
> Linux 3.2.0-26-generic
> Bodhi 2.0.0, Enlightenment E17
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <
> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 01:31:19 +0100
> Subject: Re: how install win w/o wiping the disk
> On 14 July 2012 08:46, G. <pegngaryubuntu at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 4. Under “Device” choose Create Partition Table to make a new partition
> table.
> > THIS IS THE STEP I DID NOT EXECUTE
> [...]
> > Could this be it?  Would step 4 eliminate the GPT?
>
> Yes, I think so.
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nathaniel Homier <ubuntu-users at universal-mechanism.org>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Cc:
> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:18:52 -0600
> Subject: for i in {2..6}; do mv disc$i/* disc1; rm -rf disc$i; done - Need
> help making this work
> for i in {2..6}; do mv disc$i/* disc1; rm -rf disc$i; done
>
> This gives error of > @saturn:~/cng$ for i in {2..6}; do mv disc$i/*
> disc1; rm -rf disc$i; done
> > mv: cannot move `disc2/images' to `disc1/images': File exists
> > mv: cannot move `disc3/images' to `disc1/images': File exists
> > mv: cannot move `disc4/images' to `disc1/images': File exists
> > mv: cannot move `disc5/images' to `disc1/images': File exists
> > mv: cannot move `disc6/images' to `disc1/images': File exists
>
> What I'm trying to do is merge 6 dir's into 1.  The dir structure is -
> disc1/images/
>
> The top level dir are the same it's the files that are unique.  I want
> to put the files in the same dir, disc 1, disc1/images/
>
> for i in {2..6}; do mv disc$i/* disc1;
>
> Thanks Nate.
>
>
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> From: "G. " <pegngaryubuntu at gmail.com>
> To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <
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> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:26:23 +0200
> Subject: Re: how install win w/o wiping the disk
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:31 AM, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 14 July 2012 08:46, G. <pegngaryubuntu at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 4. Under “Device” choose Create Partition Table to make a new partition
> table.
> >> THIS IS THE STEP I DID NOT EXECUTE
> > [...]
> >> Could this be it?  Would step 4 eliminate the GPT?
> >
> > Yes, I think so.
> >
> >
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> Unfortunately it did not.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "G. " <pegngaryubuntu at gmail.com>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:29:06 +0200
> Subject:
> I have a external hard drive which I can no longer open.  This is the
> error message I get.
>
>
> Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
> /dev/loop0,
>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
>        (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
>        ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?)
>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
>        dmesg | tail  or so
>
> Gparted does not see the device at all.
>
>
> >From what I could find it sounds like a problem with an install of
> ubuntu but unless I completely fell asleep at the wheel this is not
> what happened and even if it did gparted should be able to detect the
> device and allow me to reformat the device.
>
> I appreciate your thoughts.
>
>
> garyk
>
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Basil Chupin <blchupin at iinet.net.au>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:46:55 +1000
> Subject: Re: Thunderbird does not ask for password when sending second
> mail !!!
> On 14/07/12 11:11, Ric Moore wrote:
>
>> On 07/13/2012 04:00 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>
>>  What his question is really asking, "How can I configure Thunderbird so
>>> that it shuts down *everytime* and then restarts *everytime* so that I
>>> have to enter my password *everytime* I write an e-mail before it is
>>> sent?"
>>>
>>
>>
>> If the REAL problem is that the OP's gmail account is getting pwned, then
>> setting up two stage passwords will end that, toot-sweet. Plus, he'll sure
>> as heck be entering his password each time. It annoyed the hell outa me. :)
>> Ric
>>
>
> Which is another "complication" overlooked: the OP is using a google
> account - and google collects data about all users of their applications,
> including google itself which is why I have always said that "google is NOT
> your friend".
>
> People cry "security!" but use google.... Contradiction in terms there
> somewhere.....
>
>  p/s If someone is using your machine without your permission, after you
>> told them not to, you could just bust them in the mouth. <cackles> Ric
>>
>
> Nah. You ever see the film called PALE RIDER with Clint Eastwood? What is
> really appropriate here to your comment above is the scene where CLUB
> (Richard Kiel) splits the big rock with one hit of the sledge hammer and
> Clint then uses his own sledge hammer to hit Club in the balls....... None
> of this 'busting in the mouth' crap....:-D
>
> BC
>
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> AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor
> 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM
> Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Basil Chupin <blchupin at iinet.net.au>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:51:03 +1000
> Subject: Re: Thunderbird does not ask for password when sending second
> mail !!!
> On 13/07/12 18:26, Colin Law wrote:
>
> [......]
>
>
>  I don't understand why you are not willing just to lock the screen (not
>> switch off or disconnect from internet). Click on the cog in the top right
>> hand corner (assuming you are using unity) then select Lock Screen. Why
>> does this not solve the problem? Colin
>>
>
> Methinks, Colin, that there is more to this enquiry than meets the
> eye......
>
> I may very well be very wrong but it looks to me like it is a disguised
> fishing expedition to get information for a project.....
>
> BC
>
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> AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor
> 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel Corsair "Vengeance" RAM
> Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX550Ti 1GB DDR5 GPU
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> From: Nils Kassube <kassube at gmx.net>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:20:20 +0200
> Subject: Re: for i in {2..6}; do mv disc$i/* disc1; rm -rf disc$i; done -
> Need help making this work
> Nathaniel Homier wrote:
> > This gives error of > @saturn:~/cng$ for i in {2..6}; do mv disc$i/*
> > disc1; rm -rf disc$i; done
>
> I wouldn't include the rm command before I know that the first part of
> the command works ...
>
> > > mv: cannot move `disc2/images' to `disc1/images': File exists
> > > mv: cannot move `disc3/images' to `disc1/images': File exists
> > > mv: cannot move `disc4/images' to `disc1/images': File exists
> > > mv: cannot move `disc5/images' to `disc1/images': File exists
> > > mv: cannot move `disc6/images' to `disc1/images': File exists
> >
> > What I'm trying to do is merge 6 dir's into 1.  The dir structure is
> > - disc1/images/
> >
> > The top level dir are the same it's the files that are unique.  I
> > want to put the files in the same dir, disc 1, disc1/images/
> >
> > for i in {2..6}; do mv disc$i/* disc1;
>
> Try "mv disc$i/images/* disc1/images/" instead.
>
>
> Nils
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Basil Chupin <blchupin at iinet.net.au>
> To: ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
> Cc:
> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:26:18 +1000
> Subject: Re: Thunderbird does not ask for password when sending second
> mail !!!
> On 13/07/12 17:40, Gilles Gravier wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > On 13/07/2012 09:27, Basil Chupin wrote:
> [...........]
>
>
> >> So, THIS is your real concern - security when you decided to leave
> >> your computer/laptop for a few minutes to go to the toilet of have a
> >> cigarette or get a cup of tea, right?
> > Surprise surprise...
>
> No need to be surprised.
>
> Security has always been acknowledged.
>
> The question has always been, as still remains, as to why such a need
> for this "over-the-hill" requirement.
>
> Asking the questions has produced more riddles: why the statements about
> firewalls, about anti-virus applications.
>
>
> >> I have already answered this question when I responded to what Gilles
> >> wrote: LOCK SCREEN when you want to leave your computer. It takes just
> >> 2 simple clicks of the mouse to achieve this.
> > And to circumvent. This is why "sudo" implements a password timeout
> > mecanism... as I posted in the answer you mention. This is a sensible
> > way to procede... as I mentionned too.
>
> However, this does not appear to be a consideration because of what I
> just stated above - and my general comments about security which hinted
> at securing your computer should it get stolen; "sudo-ing" the password
> does not protect the contents from being seen if the computer is stolen.
>
> >> I think that you need to explain why you are so concerned about this.
> >> Knowing the real reasons for your concern is most important in helping
> >> you with your concern.
> > Because (I'm guessing, applying security common sense) that 2 measures
> > (lock screen with timeout trigger and password timeout on TBird) is
> > better than just one. That's part of a defense in depth strategy,
> > something very common when talking security. I'm sure you're aware of
> that.
>
> Yes, but the request is based on something deeper than just what the
> original post stated - at least this is what I make of it and which is
> why I am probing.
>
>
> >> WHY are you so worried about someone using your computer/laptop to
> >> post some message, and with attachment, while you may step away from
> >> your computer/laptop?
> > Because of :
> >
> > 1) Theft of documents (work context)
> > 2) Theft of identity (any context)
> > 3) Misuse of documents (work, medical)
> > 4) Mischief (any context)
> >
> > I could list more, but I'm sure you get the drift...
>
> Of course, but then you should explain to the OP that if he really and
> truly wants security then he should encrypt his whole computer to begin
> with and then have it manacled to his wrist so that he can carry it
> around with him everytime he wants to go to the toilet.
>
>
> >> What I wrote about LOCKING SCREEN is more than enough to satisfy your
> >> concern as the way you described it so far. Is there more to your
> >> concern than you have said so far?
> > No it is not. What happens when you let somebody access your account for
> > a few minutes? Basil, before you answer this one with a cookie cutter
> > answer about "you should never do that", check what MOST PEOPLE DO. It
> > happens. More than you think.
>
> No, I wouldn't state that ("you should never do that") because I do know
> that people not only do this but also use for a password their dog's
> name or the numerals '1234567890' or write down their password on the
> side of the monitor :-) . I was a database administrator so know what
> the little beggars get up to :-) .
>
> Which, of course, raises the question which has not been asked or
> mentioned so far: under which conditions is Jatin is using his
> Thunderbird? It would *appear* that he is using it in an office
> environment - but I am only guessing.
>
> If he is using his system in an office environment then he should be
> asking his question(s) of his System Administrator and not here; in fact
> his Administrator should have all the necessary security measures in
> place. So why is he asking here for answers?
>
>
> >> If you feel that you want to discuss this privately and not in this
> >> public mail list then please do not hesitate to send me a private
> >> message and I will be glad to help you.
> > I think everybody learns if we discuss this here. Maybe you too, Basil.
> :)
>
> For me every day is a new learning experience. Always something new to
> hear about, learn about, to digest, to reject as crap :-) .
>
> However, I have also found that some people "open up" when they talk
> about something in private rather than in public. Hence the offer. I'm
> glad to see that Jatin has no need to go private.
>
> BC
>
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