fresh install ---blooming DVD drive not recognized AGAIN <SOLVED> now broken again.

[Johnny]

On 01/18/2012 03:53 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
> On 18/01/12 19:04, Ric Moore wrote:
>> On 01/17/2012 11:19 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>> On 18/01/12 12:50, Ric Moore wrote:
>>>> On 01/17/2012 08:09 PM, Craig White wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 19:19 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now it won't fire up Nancy Drew! I checked everything, all the
>>>>>> connectors are connected correctly. I checked the bios, no problems
>>>>>> there with regards to the drives. The harddrive is pin selected to
>>>>>> "Master", the DVD is pin selected as "slave", the 80-wire IDE 
>>>>>> connector
>>>>>> is set with the DVD in the middle and the harddrive to the end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The DVD sees a data disk, aoutomounts it with no prob. I just 
>>>>>> checked.
>>>>>> I made sure that /dev/dvd /dev/cdrom and /dev/sr0 are chowned
>>>>>> root:cdrom. I am part of that group. Could there be another point 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the DVD could be set to other than /dev/sr0 ? The problem must be in
>>>>>> there somewhere. Ric
>>>>> ----
>>>>> for many years now, the proper way is to use 'cable select' (CS) 
>>>>> on all
>>>>> ATA/IDE devices and let the cable/controller work it out (end is 
>>>>> master,
>>>>> inside is slave). Many BIOS/devices will fail if you try to determine
>>>>> via the jumpers (master/slave). Just set everything to CS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm old and in need of being shot. I'll do that,,, set both to Cable
>>>> select, the cd on the end and the harddrive in the middle?? Thanks! 
>>>> Ric
>>>
>>>
>>> NO - the HD at the end and the CD in the middle.
>>
>> Physically impossible, due to the design of the case... The DVD drive 
>> HAS to go in at the very top of the tower... and the harddrive 
>> narrower slot is about 2 bays lower. The cable is maxed reaching the 
>> end of the IDE cable. In my down-for-now master system, The DVD is 
>> the only thing plugged in using IDE, ...the harddrive is SATA on a 
>> SATA cable.
>>
>> HEh, now on cable select the HD is slave and the DVD master. Wouldn't 
>> the SOB still work?? Now I note I have /dev/cdrom1 and /dev/DVD1
>> Re-install?? Ric
>
> You always put the faster device ahead of the slower one.
>
> What you need is a cradle for the HD and you will then be able to put 
> it with the DVD. The last time I ever put an HD in the narrower slots 
> was way back sometime in the very early '90s. With a cradle you can 
> also remove the HD for security reasons (when I go away all the HDs 
> get removed and safely stored).
>
> The other alternative is to have one on channel #1 and the other on 
> channel #2 (which I think you already had them this way).
>
> SATA and PATA use the same control channels and instruction set - only 
> difference is the actual connector meaning that you can buy a 
> converter (SATA>PATA or PATA>SATA). And you can have both SATA and 
> PATA/IDE devises in the same computer if this is what is worrying you 
> about what you now have.
>
> BC
>
Is he saying he has the 1 DVD on an IDE port and the 1 hard drive on a 
SATA port? If so he need to just take the jumpers and remove them 
shouldn't master and slave unless he has 2 things on I IDE cable. Think 
he need to start thinking one of his parts is bad and stop thinking 
software.
Good Luck sounds like you need it Johnny3 65+++