gnome-applet-volume-control is a huge usability regression

Gene Heskett gheskett at wdtv.com
Mon Aug 20 01:22:35 UTC 2012


On Sunday 19 August 2012 21:20:25 Liam Proven did opine:

> On 20 August 2012 00:27, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday 19 August 2012 19:10:54 Liam Proven did opine:
> >> On 19 August 2012 19:07, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
> >> > On Sunday 19 August 2012 14:00:26 Liam Proven did opine:
> >> >> On 19 August 2012 18:27, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Have I the only 10-04.4 LTS system on the planet that does this?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Yes, I suspect you are.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Is this, once again, your machine running the ancient kernel with
> >> >> the realtime patch?
> >> > 
> >> > Yes, 2.6.32-122-rtai
> >> > 
> >> > I should add that I have this same install on 2 of the D525MW
> >> > motherboards, and have not observed this alternate user on reboot
> >> > thing behaviour on them, although they don't run kmail either.
> >> > 
> >> > I also have it installed on my laptop, an elderly HP with a single
> >> > core 64 bit turion brain, which I occasionally use on the road for
> >> > email & browsing, but its been 2-3 months since it was booted &
> >> > likely numerous updates behind.
> >> 
> >> I've said this before, but my suggestion is:
> >> 
> >> By all means, keep the RT kernel on your milling-machine-control box,
> >> but on the others, that don't need to be R/T hard, then please,
> >> please, upgrade them to the linux-generic-lts-backport-oneiric kernel
> >> and then do an apt-get dist-upgrade on them. I'm sure of your
> >> problems will just go away if you do.
> >> 
> >> You'll still be running the same OS on all the machines.
> > 
> > Except that I won't be able to test gcode, and machine configurations
> > on a real linuxcnc, very useful before I export a feature or gcode to
> > the machines that will carve something besides virtual air.
> > 
> > For those features that do not require feedback from the machine, it
> > allows me to sit in a comfy office rocker and concentrate on the
> > code, instead of my aching back or dry hip sockets.
> > 
> > You see, LinuxCNC, when driving a stepper motor driven machine, only
> > has one view of the machine, the commands it told it to are assumed
> > to have been performed, there is no feedback to verify that the motor
> > actually moved.  So the machine itself is only needed if your
> > actually want to carve steel, meaning I can exercise gcode for
> > preview purposes all I want, in sit down comfort.  That is worth at
> > least a case of bottled beer to me.  That, FWIW, would last me for
> > about 2 weeks.  :)
> 
> Fine. Then dual-boot or run a VM. VirtualBox is free.
> 
> But to run a kernel like that for everyday production use is just
> /asking/ for trouble - and you are getting trouble.
> 
> So stop messing about!

Now I am really puzzled.  About an hour ago, and without a reboot, the 
keyboard buttons started working again!  Anybody got a good recipe for 
snilmerg spray?

Cheers, Gene
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