[OT] get rid of OT

Liam Proven lproven at gmail.com
Fri Sep 30 13:34:48 UTC 2011

On 30 September 2011 13:58, Oliver Grawert <ogra at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> hi,
> Am Freitag, den 30.09.2011, 13:28 +0100 schrieb Liam Proven:
>> What you find tiring is what other people find lively and engaging.
>> What you can't cope with is *why I am here*. What you find
>> businesslike and efficient - IRC, for example, as you repeatedly
>> invite us to participate in IRC meetings - is to others a tiresome,
>> irritating waste of time.
> Alan didn't ever say you should switch to IRC instead of using the list,

I am not suggesting that it is solely his personal POV. It is merely
that he seems to be the closest thing that we have to a regular
official presence on this list.

> it is simply how the ubuntu governance works (and that infrastructure
> was *not* put in place by canonical at all)

Oh? Do tell?

> if people think its a waste
> of time to show up at the only place that can make decisions about the
> future of this list (again, no canonical involvement here...),

If that /is/ the only place, then the governance is broken.

> then it
> doesn't seem to be worth at all to keep it running ...

If I can't or won't attend, then I hope that others can or will.

>  its probably
> 30min of your time you have to invest to keep it around and show the CC
> that there is interest and you will never have to touch IRC again after
> that.

Until the next time...

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