[ADMIN] Additional moderator(s) sought for ubuntu-users list - clarifications

Ric Moore wayward4now at gmail.com
Wed Sep 28 20:46:55 UTC 2011

On 09/28/2011 09:41 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:20:31 +1000
> Basil Chupin<blchupin at iinet.net.au>  wrote:
>> If one really seriously thinks about this, what Alan stated, "At the
>> last Community Council meeting (and on at least two occasions on the
>> past 2 years I've been on the Community Council) it's been suggested
>> that this list should be shutdown for good..." is more than
>> indicative of the attitude that Canonical's "Community Council" has
>> towards its users. I cannot help wondering for how long it was mooted
>> by the "Council" to shutdown Sounder?
>> ".....and on at least two occasions on the past 2 years...".
>> And all this time people were made to believe that their interests
>> were being looked after and promoted by Canonical's "Community
>> Council" when 'they' were plotting all the time to shutdown this
>> venue.
>> BC
> I'm surprised that this is a surprise to anyone.  The 'Community'
> Council is and has always been a misnomer.  It is the Ubuntu Council to
> Control the Community as I have repeatedly noted.  C'mon, it's friends
> picking friends and always has been.  There is no desire at Canonical or
> within Ubuntu to really and truly /be/ the Linux for human beings.
> That's marketing hype, pure and simple.

Actually, it couldn't be any further from true marketing than that. I 
will float a bet that Coca Cola spends more time listening to customers 
than they do bottling that stuff. THAT is marketing. Meeting the needs 
of the average user so he'll stay an average user. Nothing else comes 
before, if you have any social skills and understand that without input 
from the customer base, any business will wither and eventually die.

Especially if someone else comes along and meets the needs of the user 
base. Which is exactly what Uncle Mark did and publicly stated that was 
his continued business plan towards success. He looted the unsatisfied 
Red Hat user base. Now, Ubuntu is #1. The trick now is to keep them so 
that they grow up to be good little Admins that use Ubuntu Server and 
buy Ubuntu support contracts. Dink with that.

I LOVED it when my competitor got out of sync with his customer base. I 
could eat Rib Eyes for breakfast. Ric

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.

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