Reengineering the Windows boot experience - Building Windows 8

Ric Moore wayward4now at
Wed Sep 28 06:05:51 UTC 2011

On 09/27/2011 05:21 AM, Avi Greenbury wrote:
> Ric Moore wrote:
>> On 09/27/2011 12:27 AM, Fred A. Miller wrote:
>>> This answers some questions about BIOS based boxen and 'Bloze 8.
>>> Fred
>>> Windows 8 will also enter the market in a time when the industry is
>>> shifting to the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) for
>>> BIOS on all new client systems. We will continue to support the
>>> legacy BIOS interface, but machines using the UEFI interface will
>>> have significantly richer capabilities. For instance, UEFI systems
>>> can render rich graphical experiences in native resolution via the
>>> Graphic Output Protocol (GOP) driver. With UEFI, the OS can finally
>>> communicate with boot firmware in a standard way; this work is
>>> strongly supported by standards work in UEFI and the TCG (Trusted
>>> Computing Group). This enables such features as secure boot, where
>>> the OS and firmware cooperate in creating a secure handoff
>>> mechanism. It also enables a seamless visual experience from the
>>> time you hit the power button – one experience owned by two
>>> distinct components.
>> See? MicroSoft has again done what it has been so good at in the
>> past, ...steal ideas from Apple.
> Are you genuinely advocating replacing the BIOS with something other
> than UEFI purely to avoid having to have any sort of consistency with
> Apple products? That's bonkers.

I thought I was clear, Apple dominates THEIR market by strictly 
enforcing what runs on both the hardware and software of their OS. Damn 
successful at it too. Apple is the current darling of those with the 
money and desire to have something really superior to Windows. They pay 
through to nose to be not-Windows.

Wouldn't Windows want to capture and maintain the ~remaining market~ for 
themselves ~in like manner~? They WOULDN't?? Pull my other finger. <grins>

> Nobody's going to not switch to UEFI if it becomes reasonable to;
> BIOSes are, in general, rubbish. The closest they appear to have had to
> development since about 1986 is the addition of support for USB devices.
> Machines frequently spend longer in the BIOS than booting the kernel.

No disagreement there.. but in the closet of secrets, Windows would love 
to kick the stuffings out of Linux. Look at all of those server bullies 
out there, kicking sand in their face, by not paying for proper network 
licenses. I'm just saying that they would LOVE THAT. I've watched those 
devils since MSDOS days and they aren't above playing loose when it 
comes to business ethics. They bear watching. Ric

My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.

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