Suggestion for a smartphone running natively LINUX? :)

[Jay Boyson]

Another option is meego.

http://www.meego.com

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:15:54AM -0400, Kent Borg wrote:
> johhny_at_poland77 wrote:
> >not android!
> 
> You *might* want Android...
> 
> Android is the Linux kernel (okay, a fork with some power management
> changes inside), and some very sensible and cool things outside the
> kernel.
> 
> If you are going to hack up a phone, then hacking an Android and
> installing an alternate Android distribution (that you then control)
> shouldn't be a show-stopper.  Once you do that, the userland is
> certainly not the same as that of a desktop, but it is quote
> recognizably "Linux".
> 
> As for things running in a chroot, yes, Android apps will run in a
> chroot.  So if you are tempted to install some of them, you will get
> the extra security that offers.  Things you do at your own hacked
> command line are not limited to a chroot.  By running an unofficial
> distribution you won't always get all the features of running a
> stock distribution, but you get a lot of them. Certainly more than
> if you pretended you were running a desktop and figured out how to
> install something like Debian.
> 
> The biggest problem in running Android is you might be tempted to
> install something that turns out to be malware.  Okay, have
> strength!  Don't install just anything with a shiny feature or two.
> Be a geek, and look at the app permissions.  Say no to those that
> want permission to send SMSs that donate your money to mobsters.  Be
> willing to do without some alternate keyboard that also wants full
> internet access.  There will be nasty software for Android, but that
> doesn't mean you can't be both disciplined and smart enough to avoid
> it.
> 
> I am running the stock US distribution on my Nexus One, in the past
> when I have gotten a soft root I could do what I wanted (until a I
> said "yes" to an update that turned off my suids).  Including
> running an sshd on port 22 and messing with iptables if I wanted to.
> 
> Unlike Apple, Google is not hostile to hackers in the outside world.
> Certainly, they have to work to keep DRMed stuff locked up--but what
> do you expect?  If you are interested in hacking non-standard Linux
> things in a phone, finding an Android phone (that can be unlocked)
> is a great starting point.  You will have to learn some new
> stuff...but you will get to learn some new stuff!
> 
> 
> -kb, the Kent who was interested in Openmoko...but it never seemed
> to reach a reasonably usable state.
> 
> 
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